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Quote:Worcester Way
Wuss fan in peace. The noises coming out of warriors from people who work at the club is that not only is Jackson Willison staying for the season, but he has indeed signed up for next term. Whether this is posturing I don’t know but they’re not usually wrong. Interesting to see what happens.
Quote:dannyf2
T'eo still on the cards
Quote:Bathovalballer
Campagnaro is a class act if a little injury prone, will be resigned as he is a favourite of Ali Hepher.
Lachie Turner is OK but the man I would take is Whitten. Defensively he is a rock. Great carrier and gain line battering ram and is rarely injured. Can pass as well. But again he is liked by the coaches and is unlikely to be free.
Forget Holmes, we have better tight heads.
Quote:benjbath
Campagnaro injury free would be fantastic, but I would take whitten any time he was offered. Solid in defence, deceptively quick, can get over the gain line and holds defenders because of that as well which enables the faster runners like JJ to have some realistic space. Also as at home at 12 as at 13 so can effectively fill in during 6N etc. A seriously good club player, but I highly doubt exe will let him go or be happy to see him leave... he's the sort of player we want.
Quote:Which Tyler
Given the free choice of any player to steal from Exeter, I'd take Ollie back; yes ahead of Slade, but that's largely because Slade's few appearances at IC show that he's emergency cover there only, and he wouldn't oust JJ. Devoto can do everything you want of an IC very well, but nothing exceptionally, just the sort of player you want to glue your team together.
Quote:joethefanatic
I think it is entirely possible Slade will oust JJ for England. His passing game is better, his kicking game is better, he's more creative and he defends well. True, he doesn't have JJs outside break but that is increasingly rarely seen.
Quote:hemingtonQuote:joethefanatic
I think it is entirely possible Slade will oust JJ for England. His passing game is better, his kicking game is better, he's more creative and he defends well. True, he doesn't have JJs outside break but that is increasingly rarely seen.
Not sure he is as good a defensive 'captain' as JJ and can he do all those things at International level on a regular basis?
Quote:joethefanatic
I think it is entirely possible Slade will oust JJ for England. His passing game is better, his kicking game is better, he's more creative and he defends well. True, he doesn't have JJs outside break but that is increasingly rarely seen.
Quote:JimDaffQuote:joethefanatic
I think it is entirely possible Slade will oust JJ for England. His passing game is better, his kicking game is better, he's more creative and he defends well. True, he doesn't have JJs outside break but that is increasingly rarely seen.
I think EJ wants to get to the point where he can have a horses for courses approach to selection with a couple of contrasting players in each position. JJ and Slade are very different players, if England play with Farrell and Ford as duel playmakers then playing a third in Slade doesn’t work, for me you need someone with JJ’s pace and elusiveness or someone physical like Tuilagi to balance. If you play T’eo at 12 to crash it up then Slade at 13 works. They are very different players I can’t see Slade scoring a hat trick like JJ’s against Scotland but then JJ’s distribution and kicking game is nowhere near as good as Slade’s...
Quote:BathBurger
Sounds like BoB would take him in a heartbeat...
Quote:Boldangrey
A while ago we had a discussion about the merits of nos 4 and 5.
The balance was 4 the enforcer and 5 the mobile jumper.
With Attwood, Stooke Philips and Douglas I'd say we are well covered for 4s.
With only Ewells and Charteris sadly for BoB we might need another 5!
Quote:shipwreckedQuote:JimDaffQuote:joethefanatic
I think it is entirely possible Slade will oust JJ for England. His passing game is better, his kicking game is better, he's more creative and he defends well. True, he doesn't have JJs outside break but that is increasingly rarely seen.
I think EJ wants to get to the point where he can have a horses for courses approach to selection with a couple of contrasting players in each position. JJ and Slade are very different players, if England play with Farrell and Ford as duel playmakers then playing a third in Slade doesn’t work, for me you need someone with JJ’s pace and elusiveness or someone physical like Tuilagi to balance. If you play T’eo at 12 to crash it up then Slade at 13 works. They are very different players I can’t see Slade scoring a hat trick like JJ’s against Scotland but then JJ’s distribution and kicking game is nowhere near as good as Slade’s...
Agree with the "horses for courses" bit, what I like about JJ is his desire to break the line, either with footwork or more recently with his grubbers for wingers running on to. Add to that his partnership with Anthony Watson and his solid defence I think it puts him in front of Slade, if you want tactical kicking then there are Ford and Farrell to do that.
Quote:DanWiley
Being brutal, we let Allinson go this season, pay him out off so he's not in next year's cap. You bring Chudley in as that stop gap. Bring Homer back as his understudy. Cook fills in the gaps and start looking for the next Homer.
Quote:Sorry, yes; saw BoB posting about Clark the scrum half and confused myself.BathSalmon
Clark = Green right? As in Max Green the scrum half in our academy?
Too many Max's!
Quote:gaz59
"Sopoaga has prioritised banking £500,000 to 600,000 ($1.13 million NZD) per season at Wasps over furthering his international career.
That's his prerogative.
He may eventually return from England, but history tells us two-and-a-half years abroad will not enhance his skills, and others quickly step into the void."
Miaow!
But if true how the FN 'eck does it get inside the salary cap?
Quote:gaz59
"Sopoaga has prioritised banking £500,000 to 600,000 ($1.13 million NZD) per season at Wasps over furthering his international career.
That's his prerogative.
He may eventually return from England, but history tells us two-and-a-half years abroad will not enhance his skills, and others quickly step into the void."
Miaow!
But if true how the FN 'eck does it get inside the salary cap?
Quote:Optimist
Where's Haskell off to? Seems like a similar bit of business to Banners to Glos - DoR taking a punt that they are likely to deliver diminishing returns from hereon in.
Quote:Ian E
Bath confirm Banahan's move to Glos😥
Quote:@Hydor18
Am I right in thinking a marquee player’s salary not only sits outside the cap, but is also limitless as to its level? If that is the case, then what (other than tax, I guess), would stop a club from paying a player 75% of a mega wage that would’ve been paid over, say, three years of a contract in year 1, and the remaining 25% in years 2 and 3?
Quote:Correct; you COULD pay somone £2M in their first year, and then nothing in years 2 & 3; and their salary would be counted as £2/3M per year for 3 years - whether marquee or otherwise.dcsh
I thInk you could weight the contract over a number of years if required, but the average over those years would be used for salary cap purposes.