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O/T Ginger Baker
Discussion started by Duke of Earl (IP Logged), 06 October, 2019 12:47
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Duke of Earl
06 October, 2019 12:47
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hemington
06 October, 2019 14:58
remember seeing him with Eric & Jack on Ready Steady Go on a Friday night - first time on TV I think - Ginger was wearing a Norman helmet. Jimi Hendrix Experience were making their TV debut on the same show if my memory serves me well (which it doesn't do as much these days!!)

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hemington
06 October, 2019 15:04
Yep memory function in decline. Cream were on Nov 4th and Jimi, Dec 16th 1966.

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Clarkey3k
06 October, 2019 15:07
No-one get's out of here alive and only a few leave their footprint in the cultural sand. The man was without peer as a drummer...



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John Tee
John Tee
07 October, 2019 11:24
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Clarkey3k
No-one get's out of here alive and only a few leave their footprint in the cultural sand. The man was without peer as a drummer...

Not sure about that, even at the time...in the rock world, maybe.
After Cream, which was, what, '68, plenty took it on, I'd say.

Moggie
Beer Belly
07 October, 2019 13:19
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John Tee
After Cream, which was, what, '68, plenty took it on, I'd say.

Not across so many genres I would respectfully suggest.

To hear one of his drum solos where he is banging out a different rhythm with each limb whilst making it all work together- quite impressive IMHO.

Cheers Ginger! (Sm63)

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Clarkey3k
07 October, 2019 15:27
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John Tee
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Clarkey3k
No-one get's out of here alive and only a few leave their footprint in the cultural sand. The man was without peer as a drummer...

Not sure about that, even at the time...in the rock world, maybe.
After Cream, which was, what, '68, plenty took it on, I'd say.

JT, interested in your view about who the plenty were that took it on from GB...



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John Tee
John Tee
07 October, 2019 16:14
in Rock, Vinnie Colaita. In mainstream everything Steve Gadd.
In jazz, Tony Williams, Cobham, ....where do you stop.

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shipwrecked
07 October, 2019 16:26
Am I committing heresy by saying I like Phil Collins? (Sm159)



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John Tee
John Tee
07 October, 2019 16:37
You can like him sure.
Many drummers top polls that are in essence, popularity contests.

What i tend to look for you are who are the first calls by artists that can just about afford anyone.

Mike the Taxi
Mike the Taxi
07 October, 2019 17:14
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John Tee
in Rock, Vinnie Colaita. In mainstream everything Steve Gadd.
In jazz, Tony Williams, Cobham, ....where do you stop.

...Buddy Rich, Gene Krupa

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shipwrecked
07 October, 2019 17:24
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Mike the Taxi
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John Tee
in Rock, Vinnie Colaita. In mainstream everything Steve Gadd.
In jazz, Tony Williams, Cobham, ....where do you stop.

...Buddy Rich, Gene Krupa

The only thing is though that Clarkey3k was talking about from the UK, aren't these all American?

So Phil Collins is still in the frame along with Keith Moon perhaps, (like him too).



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John Tee
John Tee
07 October, 2019 18:02
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shipwrecked
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Mike the Taxi
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John Tee
in Rock, Vinnie Colaita. In mainstream everything Steve Gadd.
In jazz, Tony Williams, Cobham, ....where do you stop.

...Buddy Rich, Gene Krupa

The only thing is though that Clarkey3k was talking about from the UK, aren't these all American?

So Phil Collins is still in the frame along with Keith Moon perhaps, (like him too).

I didnt think it was only uk drummers.
And since the comment implied he set the bar, i didnt include the jazz greats prior.

Cant say i would put Collins or Moon up there myself...i always struggled with Moon's version of 'time'...

Same for Peart who regularly tops polls... but he isnt British either.

After that, we all like who we like..



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joethefanatic
08 October, 2019 06:05
I once had the jaw dropping experience of listening to Kenny Chitsvatsva play drums with the Bhundu Boys, live. The polyrhythms were astonishing.



... IMHO, of course.

Now in Honolulu

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shendy
08 October, 2019 08:22
Reni from the Stone Roses?

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joethefanatic
08 October, 2019 08:38
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shendy
Reni from the Stone Roses?

I was going to suggest Alan Wren as well.



... IMHO, of course.

Now in Honolulu



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ade1865
Ade1865
08 October, 2019 09:59
Personal favourites are Mario Duplantier and Brann Dailor. It is my considered opinion that you can have a good band with any drummer, but you cant have a great band unless you have a great drummer (note, not necessarily legendary).

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hemington
08 October, 2019 15:55
The only drum solo I ever heard that I didn't get bored with was Jon Hiseman at Bath Uni. Mind you not sure what condition my brain was in.

Of today's I love listening to and watching Carter Beauford with the Dave Matthews Band

Frome Lurkers
Frome Lurkers
08 October, 2019 17:17
Saw Ginger with Graham Bond Organisation was good then. Next time was at Cream 2nd gig at Richmond Jazz & Blues Festival ( precursor to Reading Festival) always great solo's.
I can agree with Phil Collins saw him solo in the round at NEC when he ended up with all his musicians and singers playing precussion fantastic sound.
Also rate Steve Gadd and Sonny Emory ( The Noisemakers with Bruce Hornsby)

sid the seagull
sid the seagull
08 October, 2019 22:12
Good god Hemington, I think I was there too! Showing our age I fear.

PECKHOPFLAPPECK

ps. Bill Buford

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Duke of Earl
09 October, 2019 08:46
American session and band drummers, Russ Kunkel and Jim Gordon.



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