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fat lock
fat lock
09 November, 2019 19:36
Just seen brief highlights on BT Sport
Can't complain with the red card in my opinion
Pack looked fired up and brutal.
Chudley looked good in the highlights.
Weather looked OK too
Must have been a good day out for those there.

Trawling
Trawling
09 November, 2019 19:38
And that's how you make set piece dominance pay. First half Tempest wanted the ball played away from scrums even though we were dominant but we stuck to the script and scrummaged them off the park. Lineout was good if not outstanding and for all Saints' dangerous runners ww ground them out of the game.

If BoB ever questions Charlie Ewels captaincy, commitment and 'grunt' to use a BoB word, after that lot, just laugh.

The lesson from the world cup is that an attacking player has a duty of care just as much as a defender, Brew led with his elbow and hit the defender throat high. Red all day long. (It really didn't need the theatrics btw).

Montyuk
Montyuk
09 November, 2019 19:42
Wow what a night. The Rec had some atmosphere and we were awesome. Well played Bath!

Victor Ludorum
Victor Ludorum
09 November, 2019 20:03
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Brilliant performance! Thought we'd stuffed it up when Aled got sent off (which looked like a yellow from where I was sat) but fearsome from the pack after that. Great spirit. Looks like a well coached group of players...
Rumour has it they spent the week in Exeter or was it Bristol
Like it!

Never In Doubt
Never In Doubt
09 November, 2019 21:24
On the BT Sport highlights then it looks hard to argue with the red. Haven't seen the full game yet but starting to feel hopeful about some of our young, hungry pack.

Awp24975
Awp24975
09 November, 2019 21:32
I thought Brews red card was harsh at the time, however having seen the highlights on a clear tv picture he can have no complaints.

I thought the pack were superb in the set piece, and Charlie in particular was brilliant (minus one dropped pass).

I could watch those scrums and lineouts all day. Let the backs defend and will happily pay to watch that. Those 8 minutes of scrums were brilliant!!

I think Hoops said this season was about focusing on building a dominant pack and winning the home games which is what he is doing. Just got to start getting some points away. Also nice to see 6 out of the starting 8 were academy boys.

Not saying things are perfect, but they are definitely looking more positive.

BathMatt53
BathMatt53
09 November, 2019 21:41
Agreed - have caught it on BT sport now and it’s a forearm to throat.

Young Will Stuart can go as far as he wants in this game if he keeps up these performances - he is some player. I could easily see him and Beno interesting some of the England scouts if they perform like they did today given Cole and Marler potentially calling time on their international careers?



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CoochieCoo
09 November, 2019 22:02




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Never In Doubt
Never In Doubt
09 November, 2019 22:11
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Kidney Stone
Kidney Stone
09 November, 2019 22:14
Really top performance after a shaky opening few minutes.

The pack, especially the tight 5 were simply outstanding. For me Ewells came of age today. Superb shift, great leadership and astute decision making. Inspirational.

Watching our starting front 3 mullering their replacements after 70 minutes was very enjoyable.

Great team effort.

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CoochieCoo
09 November, 2019 22:16
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Trawling
Trawling
09 November, 2019 23:36
So nothing from BoB and Ballsout's only contribution is trolling on the Saints site. Nothing intelligent to add, so why would anyone pay any attention to the inevitable one-note drivel when we lose?

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joethefanatic
10 November, 2019 00:04
I enjoyed that very much indeed. Forwards immense, Aled Brew a touch unlucky, the whole team very much not so. An excellent victory, well earned.



... IMHO, of course.

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BathMatt53
BathMatt53
10 November, 2019 07:07
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Trawling
So nothing from BoB and Ballsout's only contribution is trolling on the Saints site. Nothing intelligent to add, so why would anyone pay any attention to the inevitable one-note drivel when we lose?

Are you surprised? First on to criticise when Bath lose, go MIA when Bath win. True anti-fans of the current Bath team and set-up almost to the point of being caricature panto villains...at least its the right time of year (oh no it isn’t, oh yes it is).



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OutsideBath
10 November, 2019 08:53
From where I was sitting the ref had an absolute shocker, replays on the screen never convinced me it was a red (shame their player went down like a modern day footballer). Although the perceived sense of injustice in the crowd seemed to do the trick, probably the loudest it's been at the Rec for years.

Well done to the pack, they won it for us despite the ref seeming to be against us.

P G Tips
P G Tips
10 November, 2019 09:03
Agreed OB- very poor. The red may have been justified but Tempest overlooked so many offences it was no wonder the crowd got on his back.

PG

gaz59
gaz59
10 November, 2019 09:26
In real time it just looks like a normal rugby collision. In slo-mo it certainly looks like Brew deliberately lifts his shoulder to neck/face as he tries to go around

If this was an offence to a Bath player we would probably be applauding a tight, tough decision that sends the right message to players and coaches to avoid this kind of collision. In my book it was spot on.

Shame that it overshadowed a very positive attacking play from inside own 22 and a cracking grubber kick from Freddie

BathMatt53
BathMatt53
10 November, 2019 09:27
Personally I think that it was fantastic that the crowd were so animated, exaggerated boos and cheers included. It’s rare that the Rec crowd provide so much vocal backing for their team and it’s certainly no different than most (all?) of the other Prem clubs. Ewels Interview indicated that the player soaked it up and it was a positive for them - that’s good enough for me.

Tempest did miss things (high tackles, forward passes) but at the end of the day they are human and the players were good enough that it just didn’t matter.



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warrenball
warrenball
10 November, 2019 09:32
Most enjoyable game I have seen at the Rec in a long time, possibly because I expected to be sitting outside all day in driving rain which didn't happen but mainly the really sensible way the whole team played. Good decisions by both captain and coach, especially the one to go for the line out (and score) just after red card (which was undoubtedly the correct decision). The red card seemed to galvanise the team and the crowd. Referee missed a whole load of offences, but it was a difficult game to referee and he seemed to help the noise from the crowd with some of his decisions.

Having Priesland and Burns on together may have been forced by Homer not being available, but it worked very well and is certainly something to consider in the future. Difficult to pick any player as MOM, the forward effort huge, especially front row, but the most pleasing part was the calmness of the players who did not panic at the red card and played with intelligence. If that is Hooper's influence then he deserves congratulations.

BathMatt53
BathMatt53
10 November, 2019 09:39
Contrary to what the local
Northampton rag says (‘Saints dominated territory and possession’) the stats are here:

[www.espn.co.uk]

Bath had 58% of possession and 54% of territory. Won more ruck and mauls, 100% success on own lineout and scrum and beat 26 tackles (to saints 16).



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gaz59
gaz59
10 November, 2019 09:46
So why was Franks yellow carded? Not shown on highlights and Boyd appears to be mystified!

Mike the Taxi
Mike the Taxi
10 November, 2019 10:21
I know it was a good game, but Radio Bristol are saying Bath won after being down to 10 men after 48 minutes!! Methinks the writer of the news script knoweth not his sport!

dr.bath1865
dr.bath1865
10 November, 2019 11:09
A great afternoon. 1-23 deserve all of the plaudits, as do all of the coaches and staff for having the boys perfectly tuned in for a match that could easily have slipped away after 1 minute.

The front 5 were awesome but a word for the back row too. Up against more experienced oppo, they were outstanding, with immense workrate and dog. I must say, Bayliss looks like the real deal this season. It looks like he’s put on a bit of weight but hasn’t lost his speed. With Louw and Underhill to learn from, he could be some player. Ellis delivered an outstanding Tom Ellis performance and Mercer just gets better and better. All young men. All really stood up.

The leadership was also very impressive from the coaches down through skipper to the senior players. Our 9-10-12 ran the game well and marshalled us in a way we’ve missed on many occasions for many seasons.

Far from perfect in style. But near perfect in terms of attitude and commitment. Add in Hatley and our World Cup stars (and Faletau) and, with that set piece, we should be able to match most teams.

Barnoid
Barnoid
10 November, 2019 11:21
The Brew incident was a difficult one: in real-time it looked fairly innocuous but the multiple slow mo replays from all angles didn't help his cause and I can see how it could have been interpreted as reckless. Let's hope he doesn't cop a ban as with Roko's head knock and as yet undetermined return dates for Homer, Ruaridh, Joe C, and Ant, we might be a little light in the back 3.

There were a couple of fairly cynical looking knock-ons / slap-downs from Saints defenders when we were pressing in the second half which I thought they were lucky to get away with. Granted, from the terrace it's sometimes hard to see if things go forward in situations such as those.

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OutsideBath
10 November, 2019 12:04
Just watched the highlights and still not seeing the Brew incident as a red card, yellow at most.

However if we're being absolutely picky with blows to the head what about Saints number 7 leading with his elbow into Roko's head which resulted in him failing the HIA?

Trawling
Trawling
10 November, 2019 12:10
Gaz, I didn't have ref link but Tempest had just given Harrison the general warning and Tempest probably realised that with one loosehead in the bin, if he had put the replacement in the bin as well it would have gone uncontested. I suspect if he had got that wrong there would have been a (very polite) riot.

warrenball
warrenball
10 November, 2019 12:18
I am sure Brew did not mean to go for the head, they were running towards each other, both fairly upright and I think Brew's reaction was as much self defence than trying to damage but, unfortunately, he brought the elbow up just before collision and hit the thread/jaw area so had to be a red card. However that seemed to bring the best out of Bath, until then it was a very close run thing.

BathHalfFull
BathHalfFull
10 November, 2019 15:17
Just catching up. Great performance and a very nice surprise. Watching the highlights our forwards looked immense and we even put a few backs moves together! Excited to see what happens when we bolster that already impressive forward unit and have our England backs outside them. Suddenly I'm rather looking forward to seeing what we can do this season.

Woodster
Woodster
10 November, 2019 22:38
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Personally I think that it was fantastic that the crowd were so animated, exaggerated boos and cheers included. It’s rare that the Rec crowd provide so much vocal backing for their team and it’s certainly no different than most (all?) of the other Prem clubs. Ewels Interview indicated that the player soaked it up and it was a positive for them - that’s good enough for me.
Tempest did miss things (high tackles, forward passes) but at the end of the day they are human and the players were good enough that it just didn’t matter.

In the East stand the last two home games a group (all probably over 60) have on two occasions shouted abusive comments. Against Sale one of them simply shouted F@c& off as loudly as he could and yesterday one of them stood up and shouted as loudly as he could that the ref was a W@$nk%R. I'm no prude but I hope they remain isolated incidents.

Bathovalballer
Bathovalballer
11 November, 2019 00:48
Very well played Bath, especially the pack and in particular Obano, Dunn and my MOM Stuart. Very few even believed we could win after recent performances, against probably the form side in the Prem. this season.

After the start, I had my head in my hands and feared the worst but Chudley's try gave us hope and we certainly got on top up front. Not seen that from a Bath side for a very long time .

I know the weather was bad, but still our back play was very poor with few taking the ball at speed on the run. Roberts did so for possibly the first time in a Bath shirt and it made a huge difference.

Going down to what I thought was a red card because of the head contact, seemed to galvanise our 8 and Mercer, Ellis and Bayliss got better and better, and Stooke certainly made a difference. Our scrummaging got better as the game went on and that must be down in part to the second row shove. Ewels was a major force and we hope that trend continues as we need it.

Let's hope we can keep the momentum going and now build on this gutsy spirited display going forward.

Again very well done team.



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BathMatt53
BathMatt53
11 November, 2019 07:03
Not puny ‘schoolboy’ weaklings anymore then BOB (ie since a week or two ago)?

(The Bath scrum started well, was good in the middle and got really good when their forwards were yellow carded and they made a load of subs. Stooke was as good as ever but McNally had a great game too.)



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warrenball
warrenball
11 November, 2019 07:30
Agree Woodster, what is most annoying is when they abusive the referee without understanding some of the laws of the game. Good hearted cheering, booing and general attempts at manipulating the ref is part of the game but not foul language.

DaveOfTrow
GrumpyDave
11 November, 2019 08:09
From half way in the east stand I thought the ref was ok, though I guess he must have asked “any reason I can’t award...” for Saints’ second try. The most vociferous baying from the crowd, on our side at least, was when they were just wrong. E.g. The 2nd half kick caught by Saints, maul held up, their scrum, cos the maul was straight from a kick, decision roundly booed by everyone. Who knew? Just me and the officials, it would seem.

The red was a red all day long, when you bear in mind the zero tolerance they (eventually) showed to head/neck hits in the RWC (prem refs tend to follow the lead of the big comps, according to spreaders). Brew lifted his forearm as an instinctive fend as he was about to collide and went too high. Neck. Bad luck. Red card.

So Hoops talked about blocks of 4 games, though the targeting home games was in reference to the prem cup, I think, so no excuses for the poor away losses in the league.

In terms of the pre-season work-ons the set piece is looking good and my impression is that the conditioning is already paying off. Despite the red card we seemed to finish the stronger.

BathMatt53
BathMatt53
11 November, 2019 09:01
I watched the game in full again yesterday and certainly understood a couple of the decisions more than I did on Saturday (first deliberate knock-on going backwards off hand but forwards off man next to him for example).



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Bath Hammer
Bath Hammer
11 November, 2019 09:48
How did you manage to see the match in full BathMatt? When not televised I can only find extended highlights on BT Sport & brief highlights on Channel 5. Am I missing a trick?

dr.bath1865
dr.bath1865
11 November, 2019 09:59
Is a deliberate knock down (rather than knock on) still foul play?

There was no attempt to catch the ball, so what does it matter if it goes forward or back?

Or am I missing something in the law book?

JFPC
JFPC
11 November, 2019 10:00
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How did you manage to see the match in full BathMatt? When not televised I can only find extended highlights on BT Sport & brief highlights on Channel 5. Am I missing a trick?

Premiership rugby tv

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BathMatt53
BathMatt53
11 November, 2019 10:12
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dr.bath1865
Is a deliberate knock down (rather than knock on) still foul play?
There was no attempt to catch the ball, so what does it matter if it goes forward or back?

Or am I missing something in the law book?

Yes, nothing wrong with pushing / patting a ball backwards dr.bath1865. Lineout jumpers and jumpers after kicks off do it all the time.

Yes JFPC, the Premiership Rugby site is where I watched it - if you have a smart TV (which I guess most do now) you can just watch it on there as normal. I tend to cast it from my phone.



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ballsout
ballsout
11 November, 2019 10:33
Great win on Saturday, pack and the front five in particular really stood up. Been impressed with Will Stuart all season, looks a great signing. Had a feeling when I say them playing Paul Hill and Ben Franks we could get on top at the scrum.

Disappointing "Big T" didn't make much any impression, given all the hype from Saints supporters. Great tackle from Burns to haul him down that one time.

Bath Supporter Jack
Bath Supporter Jack
11 November, 2019 10:36
Grumpy Dave

And me!

(With respect to catching a ball in the air and then being held up)

DorsetBoy
Dorset Boy
11 November, 2019 10:39
For Wood's try, Tempest told the TMO he had seen the ball on the floor hence the question he asked. (Some may well dispute his eyesight though!)
Same as in the winning try for Bristool yesterday.



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bardofavon
bardofavon
11 November, 2019 11:29
a great result. of course the pack got lots of plaudits but freddie at 15 was a revelation to me.

Bath Supporter Jack
Bath Supporter Jack
11 November, 2019 12:39
I agree.......when Watson is back we need him at flyhalf..........not kicking the ball!

BathDonkey
BathDonkey
11 November, 2019 13:06
The red card certainly galvanised both the supporters and the players, as did the unconvincing try given after TMO review.
As far as the red card is concerned I'm convinced that a better ref would at most have given a penalty as a"rugby incident". In real time it looked innocuous but the slow motion replays make it look like a ferocious attack. You have to ask what else he could do. If you're running full tilt at someone, you of course put your arms up for the safety of both of you. Would a body check with whiplash have been a better option?
It's fortunate for Bath that ultimately it created the win, because otherwise a very dubious decision could have defined the result.

Lee Bideaux
Armchair Fan
11 November, 2019 13:24
Plenty to grouse about, if you are of a kind to do so.

Was very pleased with the sheer amount of dog put in to win that. Spruning an easy 3 pointer in favour of endless scrums ran the clock down and got it's reward. Good on-field decision, backed up by a great effort from the pack. In a way it's a shame that Zach actually scored that try, I'd have loved even more pain being dished to the Saints forwards.



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BathMatt53
BathMatt53
11 November, 2019 13:53
The more ‘spruning’ the better IMO!

In relation to Burns, there will be 2 on the field this weekend - wonder if they will both play 15?



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Old Bath Tub
Old Bath Tub
11 November, 2019 17:35
Team of the week from Chris Foy includes Freddie Burns, Will Chudley, Beno Obano and Will Stuart.
Also Top Tackle Freddie Burns on Taqele Naiyaravoro .

Northampton DOR Chris Boyd was not impressed with the manner of Baths win saying “They weren’t trying to play the game. They were trying to scrum for penalties. That was their game plan.

Isn’t the scrum part of the game anymore ? Sounds like sour grapes to me ! (Sm128)



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BathDonkey
BathDonkey
11 November, 2019 18:05
It won the World Cup!

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OutsideBath
11 November, 2019 18:13
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Northampton DOR Chris Boyd was not impressed with the manner of Baths win saying “They weren’t trying to play the game. They were trying to scrum for penalties. That was their game plan.(Sm128)

Rugby shocker, team plays to it's strength!

BathMatt53
BathMatt53
11 November, 2019 18:39
Very Salty - doesn’t sound good for a man of his age.



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P G Tips
P G Tips
11 November, 2019 19:49
Northampton DOR Chris Boyd was not impressed with the manner of Baths win saying “They weren’t trying to play the game. They were trying to scrum for penalties. That was their game plan.

And Northampton were trying to frustrate legal scrummaging- hence the penalties. If he prefers the scrum as a restart to the game, why were his team trying to prevent the game re-starting?

PG

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joethefanatic
11 November, 2019 21:55
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Northampton DOR Chris Boyd was not impressed with the manner of Baths win saying “They weren’t trying to play the game. They were trying to scrum for penalties. That was their game plan.
And Northampton were trying to frustrate legal scrummaging- hence the penalties. If he prefers the scrum as a restart to the game, why were his team trying to prevent the game re-starting?

PG

Top v bottom on a wet day in the West Country at the back end of Autumn, that sounds like a very fine plan. And so it turned out. Welcome to the Prem, Chris smiling smiley



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Bath Hammer
Bath Hammer
12 November, 2019 00:03
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ballsout
Disappointing "Big T" didn't make much any impression, given all the hype from Saints supporters. Great tackle from Burns to haul him down that one time.

I can live without that (Sm120) Are they referring to Teimana Harrison? Not a very imaginative name!

Bath Hammer
Bath Hammer
12 November, 2019 00:05
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Dorset Boy
For Wood's try, Tempest told the TMO he had seen the ball on the floor hence the question he asked. (Some may well dispute his eyesight though!)
Same as in the winning try for Bristool yesterday.

He must have x-ray vision. Amazing!

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joethefanatic
12 November, 2019 01:00
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Bath Hammer
Quote:
ballsout
Disappointing "Big T" didn't make much any impression, given all the hype from Saints supporters. Great tackle from Burns to haul him down that one time.

I can live without that (Sm120) Are they referring to Teimana Harrison? Not a very imaginative name!

I presume Taquele Naiayaravoro. He's one of those very big men who aren't onvincingly aggressive in contact. JoeC is another as is, strangely enough, Billy V.



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opti
Optimist
12 November, 2019 09:48
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Bath Hammer
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Dorset Boy
For Wood's try, Tempest told the TMO he had seen the ball on the floor hence the question he asked. (Some may well dispute his eyesight though!)
Same as in the winning try for Bristool yesterday.

He must have x-ray vision. Amazing!

Must admit I don't really mind referees taking circumstantial evidence that the ball has been grounded. The main point of rugby is to get the ball the other side of the white line, and it's hard enough to do that these days. Defensive players make a deliberate effort to pile in around the grounding area to obscure the cameras, so there needs to be some counter-balance to that.

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shipwrecked
12 November, 2019 09:58
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Optimist
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Bath Hammer
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Dorset Boy
For Wood's try, Tempest told the TMO he had seen the ball on the floor hence the question he asked. (Some may well dispute his eyesight though!)
Same as in the winning try for Bristool yesterday.

He must have x-ray vision. Amazing!

Must admit I don't really mind referees taking circumstantial evidence that the ball has been grounded. The main point of rugby is to get the ball the other side of the white line, and it's hard enough to do that these days. Defensive players make a deliberate effort to pile in around the grounding area to obscure the cameras, so there needs to be some counter-balance to that.

I watched the game last night and thought that the 'circumstantial evidence' for Wood's try seemed to be no grounding 'held up' rather than 'try' to my mind the wording of the question was wrong.



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shipwrecked
12 November, 2019 10:14
Only saw the game last night, second half was really impressive, I'd obviously endorse all the front row comments and the back row seemed to enjoy the mayhem, but I was impressed with Josh McNally. He was winning his line out and tackling and carrying but I really liked his catching at the restart. That has been a problem for us in the past. Whoever sourced this guy need a pat on the back he is a future star.
On the Freddie at fullback argument we had a period where Todd played RP at 10 and FB at 15 as dual playmakers, IIRC that went well but was cut short by injury. RP looks a better player behind a pack going forward but still doesn't really set the back alight, the important thing is its winning rugby. I'm happy to sacrifice sparking back play for a while.



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opti
Optimist
12 November, 2019 10:22
McNally was lined up to replace Attwood when big Dave was angling to stay on at Toulon, so would have been here earlier if Mourad had been willing to pay the compensation Bruce wanted. I guess that means Todd wanted him, or was it Hooper recruiting even back then?

warrenball
warrenball
12 November, 2019 10:56
On the Wood try, once the players are getting near or over the line there seems to be a general free for all when players drop down and often go over the ball in a way that would not be legal in open play. The Saints No 19 dropped onto the defending players trying to push the ball to the ground - what is the law regarding this, does it change once the ball has crossed the line as the ball is still in play until it is touched down?

opti
Optimist
12 November, 2019 11:21
While Ewels has been (rightly, i'm sure) receiving a lot of plaudits for his captaincy, the exchange with Tempest as he explains why he's about to red card Brew really isn't designed to endear him with refs. As Tempest is talking, you can hear Ewels saying directly to the ref to try to engage him: 'Mate ... mate' and then turning his head away a bit contemptuously and then shaking his head when the card comes out.

Call me old-fashioned, but I think the word he's looking for is: 'Sir'.

BathMatt53
BathMatt53
12 November, 2019 11:26
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Optimist
While Ewels has been (rightly, i'm sure) receiving a lot of plaudits for his captaincy, the exchange with Tempest as he explains why he's about to red card Brew really isn't designed to endear him with refs. As Tempest is talking, you can hear Ewels saying directly to the ref to try to engage him: 'Mate ... mate' and then turning his head away a bit contemptuously and then shaking his head when the card comes out.
Call me old-fashioned, but I think the word he's looking for is: 'Sir'.

You are old fashioned. (Sm100)

...although I thought that was quite 'familiar' too...although refs are doing the same, Doyle was calling Roko 'Roko' the other day.

I saw the contemptuous shake of the head as an 'oh no'-type sigh.



[Adoptee: Tom Doughty - dynamic hooker born in Brighton, made at Team Bath. Record for BUCS top try scorer within a season]

gaz59
gaz59
12 November, 2019 11:30
I thought Freddie had a great game all round at FB [perhaps there is something in his initials??]. His cover defence tackling has been exceptional at times, witness the great try saving effort against Chiefs also

opti
Optimist
12 November, 2019 11:34
Quote:
Old Bath Tub
Team of the week from Chris Foy includes Freddie Burns

Just about sums up Freddie's lot since he arrived at Bath. Forces his way into the starting XV, puts in a strong performance, and has absolutely zero chance of keeping his place for next Saturday.

gaz59
gaz59
12 November, 2019 11:41
Back to his initials then, Freddie Benchwarmer?

His grubber kick through for Brew could so easily have been a 7 pointer starting from inside own 22 rather than the red card, it was right on the spot

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shipwrecked
12 November, 2019 12:03
Quote:
Optimist
Quote:
Old Bath Tub
Team of the week from Chris Foy includes Freddie Burns

Just about sums up Freddie's lot since he arrived at Bath. Forces his way into the starting XV, puts in a strong performance, and has absolutely zero chance of keeping his place for next Saturday.

I can only see Joe C and Rory being selected myself, Underhill, Flouw Watson and probably JJ rested I'd have thought.



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Lee Bideaux
Armchair Fan
12 November, 2019 13:11
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BathMatt53
The more ‘spruning’ the better IMO!
In relation to Burns, there will be 2 on the field this weekend - wonder if they will both play 15?

Gah!(Sm106)smileys with beer



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opti
Optimist
12 November, 2019 13:25
'Spruning' - is that when you decide against trimming your bush?

Mike the Taxi
Mike the Taxi
12 November, 2019 13:31
...is that the new name for 'Brazilian'?

Bath Supporter Jack
Bath Supporter Jack
12 November, 2019 17:22
Opti I am with you but relative to me you are bang on current street trends!!!!

Saint Stokey
Saint Stokey
13 November, 2019 13:33
We really weren't at the races at the weekend. I don't think the pitch helped us as our scrum is not our strength but can't have any arguments about the result. You were overall the better side and I thought deserved the win and the early try gave us a bit of false hope.

Sadly, final passes didn't go to hand for us, had they have done i think we'd have got a couple more tries but it wasn't to be.

The red was unlucky. Clearly no malice in the challenge but I don't think the ref had much option. It was a forearm to the throat. As for someone commenting that Furbank 'took a dive', the fact that he went off and played no further part suggests different.

I'm not sure that Woods try should have stood; I think we got lucky there. It was at the opposite end of the pitch and we couldn't really see the screen, but on Reflink, Tempest almost immediately commented that he'd seen grounding and that his on field decision was a Try. There didn't seem to be many people around us with the Reflink, just lots of incorrect guessing.

I know we got booked twice, but the last 10 minutes of scrumming got tedious and some of the decisions looked to be stumping Tempest leading to him guessing. I thought your Loosehead lost his footing which caused the scrum to collapse which lead to Hill's yellow.

Overall, you deserved the win but on another day I think we could have got a result. Look forward to welcoming you all to the Gardens

BathMatt53
BathMatt53
13 November, 2019 14:23
We should have about 7 internationals back in April so should have a bit more bite.

I think that Furbank did come back on later in the game - 61 mins for ‘big T’.



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