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TIME FOR TRIES? BATH v HARLEQUINS. TEAM UP!
Discussion started by Comeonmylovers.co.uk (IP Logged), 07 January, 2020 18:16
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CoochieCoo
07 January, 2020 18:35
Bath vs Harlequins at Recreation Ground, Bath
Referee: Pascal GaŁzŤre (France)
Assistant referees: Maxime Chalon (France), Julien Dufort (France)
Television match official: …ric Gauzins (France)
Timekeeper: Paul Box (England)
Citing commissioner: John Montgomery (Scotland)



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Mike the Taxi
Mike the Taxi
07 January, 2020 19:39
[www.somersetlive.co.uk] Matt Garvey back Friday?

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joethefanatic
07 January, 2020 20:12
I see the weather forecast for Saturday is for strong wind and rain. Can I respectfully suggest that the ball does not go beyond 10? Running the ball is all very well but there are certain eternal verities in rugby...



... IMHO, of course.

Now in Honolulu

Old Bath Tub
Old Bath Tub
07 January, 2020 20:21
Quote:
joethefanatic
I see the weather forecast for Saturday is for strong wind and rain. Can I respectfully suggest that the ball does not go beyond 10? Running the ball is all very well but there are certain eternal verities in rugby...

Hopefully itís better Friday night when the games on ! (Sm128)



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TG Kesmo
TG Kesmo
07 January, 2020 20:28
Weather for Friday (and Saturday) dry, not too windy Friday night so should not be an issue.

TomReagan
TomReagan
07 January, 2020 21:08
Ideal for a side that likes playing a fast offloading game. Oh dear...

BathMatt53
BathMatt53
07 January, 2020 21:16
McNally, Louw, Underhill or Faletau will not be playing IMO. It will be Bayliss, Davies and Williams, with Garvey in the 2nd row I think. I also wonder if Roko will play, suspect it maybe Levi Davis?



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TomReagan
TomReagan
07 January, 2020 21:58
Agree Bath Matt. I enjoy watching these sort of games with pressure off and some of the less established players but I pity that Quins fan with three tickets to offload!

opti
Optimist
07 January, 2020 22:00
Going to be a United game basically. Iíd go if the entry cost was a few quid in the bucket.

P G Tips
P G Tips
07 January, 2020 22:04
Davis is not listed in the ECC Squad.

PG

warrenball
warrenball
08 January, 2020 08:52
Why would we want to risk our top players for a dead rubber, time for experimentation and giving the younger players a chance

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Clarkey3k
08 January, 2020 10:24
I really want to see Ollie Fox play and hope he is selected to start with FB outside, quick ball is essential to score tries out wide...



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OutsideBath
08 January, 2020 12:24
Expect both sides to go for it and treat it a bit like a friendly. Something very wrong with the attack coaching if we canít get the ball to our wingers in space on Friday.

gaz59
gaz59
08 January, 2020 13:23
If there is a strong representation from the younger end of the squad and there should, then the United team will feature a lot of guests

opti
Optimist
08 January, 2020 13:36
I don't think there is a United game this weekend gaz?

I was saying that this game is essentially going to be the 'United' game. Neither team will be risking key players. It's actually a bit of a shame that we can't register TdG for example. Would be a great hit-out for him and a couple of others.

P G Tips
P G Tips
08 January, 2020 17:04
I agree it would be great to see TdG get a run out. Unfortunately he is not registered for ECC, nor-unless there has been a late and unannounced update is Levi Davis. G Hamer-Webb is expected to be required by England U20.

PG

Awp24975
Awp24975
08 January, 2020 23:25
Well I personally would play the second choice front row, Garvey and another at lock, but first choice back row.

They could do with another game together as a unit and then give them the week off next week.
You learn so much as a unit by playing together.

Burns at fly half for next two weeks and then Rhys back for league game.

ballsout
ballsout
09 January, 2020 11:40
Vaughan, J Davies, R Davies, Levi Davis... get these guys involved with experienced heads around them

opti
Optimist
09 January, 2020 11:50
Harlequins game is completley meaningless so will probably escape any scrutiny in terms of which teams either side put out, but there's plenty for Ulster/Clermont still to play for, so we and Quins might be obliged to treat those more competitively. I'd be inclined to give Faletau the game time this week and next, but otherwise wrap up the important players, and then play the Ulster game as a proper warm-up for Tigers.

P G Tips
P G Tips
09 January, 2020 12:03
Team Up. Green returns. TdG on bench:

BATH RUGBY SIDE TO FACE HARLEQUINS:

15. Anthony Watson (C)

14. Gabe Hamer-Webb

13. Max Wright

12. Jackson Willison

11. Aled Brew

10. Freddie Burns

9. Max Green

1. Lewis Boyce

2. Jack Walker

3. Christian Judge

4. Matt Garvey

5. Rhys Davies

6. Tom Ellis

7. Mike Williams

8. Josh Bayliss

Replacements

16. Ross Batty, 17. Lucas Noguera, 18. Sam Nixon, 19. Levi Douglas, 20. Nahum Merigan, 21. Ollie Fox. 22. Alex Davies, 23. Tom de Glanville


PG

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woodpecker
09 January, 2020 12:07
Watson captain, Nice!

ballsout
ballsout
09 January, 2020 12:07
Noguera reserve loosehead. Seriously? Why??

P G Tips
P G Tips
09 January, 2020 12:08
Interesting selection.

Several of those named are not listed as registered for the ECC so EPC website is obviously out of date.

No matter - good to see some youngsters get a run out - thought Green looked good last time out, Tom de Glanville too.



P G Tips


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P G Tips
P G Tips
09 January, 2020 12:10
And Harlequins... just a bit more experienced.

Harlequins team news

15 Aaron Morris,

14 Vereniki Goneva

13 Luke Northmore

12 Paul Lasike

11 Gabriel Ibitoye

10 Brett Herron

9 Danny Care

1 Joe Marler

2 Max Crumpton

3 Kyle Sinckler

4 Tevita Cavubati

5 Dino Lamb

6 James Chisholm

7 Chris Robshaw (C)

8 Alex Dombrandt


Replacements: 16 Jack Musk, 17 Santiago Garcia Botta, 18 Will Collier, 19 Glen Young, 20 Semi Kunatani, 21 Niall Saunders, 22 Tom Penny, 23 Ross Chisholm.



P G Tips


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opti
Optimist
09 January, 2020 12:11
Good to see Willison and Green back. Good to see TdG working his way towards the senior team. All considered, we really should have as close as you'll ever get to a full-strength squad for the Tigers game.

dr.bath1865
dr.bath1865
09 January, 2020 12:12
Nice to see Max Green back. Interesting selection. Looks much more like their first choice XV than ours but I look forward to seeing if Burns and Willison can give Watson some good ball.

bo- Because he's our 3rd/4th choice loosehead and Obano deserves a week off? Who else do you recommend in his place?

P G Tips
P G Tips
09 January, 2020 12:13
Except England guys Opti- Eddie has called a Pre 6N camp for that weekend. See MtT's Chron thread.

PG

BathMatt53
BathMatt53
09 January, 2020 12:22
14 changes as expected. Strong Quins team so looking forward to the youngster and fringe guys showing that they are up to playing at this level. Surely 1st senior competitive appearance for 18 year old Nahum Merigan - congratulations to him!



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opti
Optimist
09 January, 2020 12:24
Quote:
P G Tips
Except England guys Opti- Eddie has called a Pre 6N camp for that weekend. See MtT's Chron thread.
PG

Oh. From a result point of view that probably hinders them more than us. From a season-ticket holder/paying public point of view that is absolute garbage.

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Clarkey3k
09 January, 2020 12:42
Our front row will struggle all night [sighs], and their back row looks a more balanced/better selection too. It's therefore a big game for our locks, we need good first phase possession and the line out looks like the best place to secure it. The back line looks "stitched together" so I'm not expecting too much from them re planned moves but hope for more wit and imagination from FB et al when we counter attack...



Adopted players: 2020/21 A Watson; [20] T Faletau; [19] M V Vuuren; [18] T Faletau; [17] D Denton; [16] H. Agulla; [15] L Houston; [14] W Spencer; [13] F. Louw

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ballsout
ballsout
09 January, 2020 12:42
Quote:
dr.bath1865
bo- Because he's our 3rd/4th choice loosehead and Obano deserves a week off? Who else do you recommend in his place?

Vaughan. Bath born and bred, wants to play for the club and isn't one of the worst signings we've made in a decade, with one of the costliest contracts?

BathMatt53
BathMatt53
09 January, 2020 12:44
Quote:
ballsout
Noguera reserve loosehead. Seriously? Why??

Seriously...why not? Surely he hasn't fallen so far that he isn't even worth playing for 20 mins in a dead rubber game?



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ballsout
ballsout
09 January, 2020 12:44
Good to see other young lads in the team though but looking at that Quins team (they must be desperate) it could be a long night regardless.

Kidney Stone
Kidney Stone
09 January, 2020 12:48
Good to see Beno, Tom and Will get some downtime.

Our back row still decent but agree the scrum may struggle.

Where is Levis Davies? Is he injured? He looked a real handful early season.

dr.bath1865
dr.bath1865
09 January, 2020 12:48
Agree but I thought he picked up a knock in the last Utd game at Irish.

I had no idea Noguera was on such a big contract. Sounds like he should free up a bit of cap!

BathMatt53
BathMatt53
09 January, 2020 12:54
Quote:
dr.bath1865
Agree but I thought he picked up a knock in the last Utd game at Irish.
I had no idea Noguera was on such a big contract. Sounds like he should free up a bit of cap!

He had 40 front row Argentina caps before he joined Bath at the age of 24, I would have thought that he would have (quite rightly) commended a very decent salary at the time. He always looked a bit lightweight for Premiership rugby whenever I have seen him play. Lovely guy though.



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ballsout
ballsout
09 January, 2020 12:59
Lovely guy, total waste of time to play him.

Anyway, scrum will be under pressure, we'll be starved of possession, our already non-existent team cohesion will be made even worse by 14 changes. When we finally get some ball to play with, Freddie will kick it away instantly, badly, probably costing us a try at the other end shortly after, as usual. Hey ho. We'll score a few individual tries though, surely, so that'll be something to cheer.

Mike the Taxi
Mike the Taxi
09 January, 2020 13:12
Quote:
ballsout
Lovely guy, total waste of time to play him.
Anyway, scrum will be under pressure, we'll be starved of possession, our already non-existent team cohesion will be made even worse by 14 changes. When we finally get some ball to play with, Freddie will kick it away instantly, badly, probably costing us a try at the other end shortly after, as usual. Hey ho. We'll score a few individual tries though, surely, so that'll be something to cheer.

Happy New Year, bo! Good to see some things never change.

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Rawce
09 January, 2020 13:16
I thought Green was out for a large chunk of the season, so very good to see him back. A bit baffled by the strength of the Quins team tbh. We will certainly struggle at scrum time. Hopefully the rest we will have a bit more parity.

Bathovalballer
Bathovalballer
09 January, 2020 13:52
That Quins side makes me think and our thrown together, no regular recent match time squad are going to have their hands very full and it could get very embarrassing on the scoreboard.

Great to see Max Green back.

I like BO wonder why we keep Noguerra who has achieved absolutely nothing with us after coming here with an excellent international track record. Much rather we gave the experience and game time to Vaughan if fit.

Similarly Garvey is going to have to step up, and again I would have played Douglas in his place.

Quins by a lot.



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BathMatt53
BathMatt53
09 January, 2020 13:56
The squad has now been updated on the EPCR website. People like JC out and TDG in.

[www.epcrugby.com]

3. ELIGIBILITY OF PLAYERS
3.1 Each club must nominate a squad of up to 41 players. A minimum of 10 of the players nominated by the club must be capable of playing in front row forward positions. All such players must, on registration, be fully and properly registered with their club and Union.

3.2 A club must nominate a squad of between 19 and 23 players for each match.

3.3 A minimum of six front row players must be included in each match squad such that on the first occasion that a replacement is required in each position, a replacement can be made. Where uncontested scrums are ordered due to the departure of a front row player and there is no suitable replacement, the player whose departure caused the uncontested scrums may not be replaced (i.e. the club will be required to play with 14 players).

3.4 In order to reduce the possibility of uncontested scrums, each club may also nominate further front row players, referred to as Emergency Front Row players, who may be registered with EPCR on a match-by-match basis provided that all necessary details of the players have been submitted before 12 noon (GMT) on 24 October 2019. The provision for the nomination of Emergency Front Row players is not intended to allow clubs to improve the quality of their squads, and is designed to cater for illness and/or injury in the relevant positions. The players added to squads will typically come from a clubís academy or similar.

3.5 To provide flexibility for clubs in light of Rugby World Cup 2019 and to cater for the possibility of long-term injuries sustained by players after the First Registration deadline but before Round 1, clubs may register up to five Swap Players on or before Wednesday 13 November 2019 to replace players previously registered by the club.

3.6 The registration of incoming Swap Players can be reversed before the deadline of midday (GMT) on Thursday 26 March 2020. Each player can only replace the player who was initially nominated as his Swap Player.

3.7 Each club may register up to five Additional Players during the pool stage, but none during the knockout stage, each to replace a player previously registered. A minimum of three Additional Players must be front row players, one Additional Player can be from any position and one Additional Player must be a medical replacement. Additional Players must have a three-month contract with the club and must not have played for another club in the tournament. Additional Player registrations must be submitted by 12 noon (GMT) on the Wednesday before the match. De-registered players may be re-registered (in place of the relevant Additional Players) during the pool stage.

3.8 For Second Registration, clubs can add up to three players to supplement their squads and one of the players must be a front row player. Such registrations must be submitted by 12 noon (GMT) on 26 March 2020.

3.9 Each club is permitted a maximum of two Ďnon-European playersí in each match squad and for the 2019/20 season at least, a player who is a UK citizen will be regarded as a European player.




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bardofavon
bardofavon
09 January, 2020 14:20
bizarre team from quins. looks full strength except for a couple of positions. given they have a worse injury list than we do and given the game is meaningless i would have thought they would have picked a weaker side, knowing also that we would be fielding a second team (don't the coaches contact each other about these kind of things?). the fans want to see a competitive game. quins' selection appears to be way over the top.

BathMatt53
BathMatt53
09 January, 2020 14:25
Also the small matter of them playing Clermont next week.



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B4thB4ck
B4thB4ck
09 January, 2020 14:41
One man's team of youth and opportunity is another man's team thrown together with a lack of experience and no chance of winning.

opti
Optimist
09 January, 2020 14:54
They are home to Saracens after Clermont - but given Eddie will take Sinckler and Marler away from that match, they probably feel they might as well use them as not. Who else is critical for them for the Sarries game? Robshaw, Dombrandt, Care, Goneva, Lasike? Probably planning to rest them against Clermont.

TomReagan
TomReagan
09 January, 2020 15:42
Just been embarrassed by Sale with Sarries and Clermont to follow. Gustard angry after Friday's loss and two games on horizon where they face a beating, so they want to win Friday. We had 5 very predictable losses on the bounce. Just as predictably, we were termed a club in crisis. We won two consecutive games and suddenly we were 'resurgent'. This is the sort of hyperbole surrounding sport. Gustard wants a morale booster and one that relieves pressure, and understandably so. From a fan's point of view it would be great if the rival coaches had a friendly chat, but they have their own priorities and agendas. I'm still looking forward to the game and think it will be close (ish)!

BathMatt53
BathMatt53
09 January, 2020 16:08
Boyce has something to prove against his old club - he was pinged off the park in the last game against Quins and the commentary team suggested that Adam Jones knew all of his weaknesses in the scrum and so got the TH (not Sinkler) to target them. Will be a long evening if he hasnít sorted that.



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OutsideBath
09 January, 2020 17:41
Be nice to win, but no big deal if we donít and only essential to come out injury free.

Dempsey has to be heavily scrutinised and if the attack is blunt again like it has been all season surely he has to be moved on?

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joethefanatic
09 January, 2020 18:32
Quote:
OutsideBath
Dempsey has to be heavily scrutinised and if the attack is blunt again like it has been all season surely he has to be moved on?

Really? Why is this meaningless match suddenly pivotal rather than any of the others?



... IMHO, of course.

Now in Honolulu

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OutsideBath
09 January, 2020 18:38
Quote:
joethefanatic
Quote:
OutsideBath
Dempsey has to be heavily scrutinised and if the attack is blunt again like it has been all season surely he has to be moved on?

Really? Why is this meaningless match suddenly pivotal rather than any of the others?

Because our attack has been so blunt all season that we might as well not fielded any wingers.

As this is a dead runner thereís no excuse not to chuck the ball around and demonstrate we actually have wingers.

BathMatt53
BathMatt53
09 January, 2020 19:25
I think that they will be going backwards at a rate of knots - any quality attacking moves will be tough. We also wonít be able to judge some of the individuals for the same reason (like the kids) tbh. As said above, as long as there are no injuries then the experience will be valuable for them. Having said that, COYB!!



[Adoptee: Tom Doughty - dynamic hooker born in Brighton, made at Team Bath. Record for BUCS top try scorer within a season]

B4thB4ck
B4thB4ck
09 January, 2020 19:37
I think context is the key word, yes they know they are not first choice* but they would have trained together as a chosen XV this week.

When pulling on the shirt they know this is a good chance to show what they can do rather than 5 or 10 mins at the back end of a game.

There, that's my team talk done. Not great I know....

*AW aside.

charlieboa
charlieboa
09 January, 2020 19:56
Quote:
ballsout
Noguera reserve loosehead. Seriously? Why??

If they had beno in squad and he got injured i am sure you would have some things to say. Assume you would rather see vaughan on the bench? I wouldnt argue with that. Assume nogeura is off and better to invest playing time in a young guy who will be around next season?

charlieboa
charlieboa
09 January, 2020 19:59
Quote:
BathMatt53
Boyce has something to prove against his old club - he was pinged off the park in the last game against Quins and the commentary team suggested that Adam Jones knew all of his weaknesses in the scrum and so got the TH (not Sinkler) to target them. Will be a long evening if he hasnít sorted that.

Agree he has lots to prove. So far has looked weak at set piece and a liability in terms of discipline. Tbf is stil young and looks a handful when carrying. Hopefully hatley has something to work with....

sid the seagull
sid the seagull
10 January, 2020 11:06
Why on earth have Quins picked such a strong side?
A. Finally got round to watching GP highlights last night, gawd Quins looked desperate!
So guess this is their way of trying to get a bit of confidence back.
Come on you Bath Boys, time to give em a good smacking. Bath by 12.

FLAP

opti
Optimist
10 January, 2020 11:35
Can't help feeling this is going to be one of those games that gets decided in the front row. A few penalties, some territory, some momentum changes. The experience of Care and Robshaw to capitalise on key moments. Would love it if Burns and Willison can conjure up some decent width, but imagine they will be on the back foot most of the evening.

warrenball
warrenball
10 January, 2020 15:31
Surprised to see the bookies have the game fairly even with a very slight advantage to Quins. Am I being particularly pessimistic about Bath's chances in thinking they are being generous in those odds to Quins?

BathMatt53
BathMatt53
10 January, 2020 15:33
Quote:
warrenball
Surprised to see the bookies have the game fairly even with a very slight advantage to Quins. Am I being particularly pessimistic about Bath's chances in thinking they are being generous in those odds to Quins?

They have multiple seasoned internationals including world cup finalists. I saw the 1 point swing and thought it unusual too, even with my rosiest of tinted glasses on.



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opti
Optimist
10 January, 2020 15:53
My joint starting XV has 8 x Quins, 7 x Bath, and i'm going to say we shade the bench, mainly because I haven't heard of most of their players so I haven't got a clue. But it's Marler, Sinckler, Robshaw, Dombrandt and then Care who have the potential to dictate the course of the match.

Marler
Walker
Sinckler
[2nd row - absolutely no idea - assume 1 each]
Robshaw
Dombrandt
Ellis
Care
Burns
Lasike
Willison
Goneva
Brew
Watson

warrenball
warrenball
10 January, 2020 17:47
Sitting on the fence a bit Opti, but I assume from that you agree with the bookies and think it is likely to be quite close?

BathMatt53
BathMatt53
10 January, 2020 18:07
Ibitoye is class IMO. Would probably be above Goneva or Brew for me. He can do things that other wingers can only dream of, like Wade could. Age seems to have caught up with Goneva a bit from what I have seen of him this season - missing opportunities and tackles too.



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Mike the Taxi
Mike the Taxi
10 January, 2020 20:15
Sod's Law, Max Green gets injured in first half, replaced by Ollie Fox

Mike the Taxi
Mike the Taxi
10 January, 2020 20:29
GH-W try! Converted by FB

Mike the Taxi
Mike the Taxi
10 January, 2020 20:30
HT

14 v 12

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hasta
10 January, 2020 20:35
Willison looking class.

opti
Optimist
10 January, 2020 20:36
Funny how we look like the home team when Priestland isnít playing.

Kidney Stone
Kidney Stone
10 January, 2020 20:37
Jackson Willison is looking really useful and the front row are holding their end up well.

Shame about Green but Fox looking decent.

COYB!!!

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Clarkey3k
10 January, 2020 20:45
Good first half, only 1 scrum in first 28mins, front row boys doing a good job thereafter, lineout working v well, FB kicking mixed but probably just in credit and back line trying to play. 68% possession v 32% in 1st half but twice as many handling errors as quins. Cut that out plse...



Adopted players: 2020/21 A Watson; [20] T Faletau; [19] M V Vuuren; [18] T Faletau; [17] D Denton; [16] H. Agulla; [15] L Houston; [14] W Spencer; [13] F. Louw

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Kidney Stone
Kidney Stone
10 January, 2020 21:05
Freddie shocker costs a try. Wtf.

This french ref is excellent.

Kidney Stone
Kidney Stone
10 January, 2020 21:07
Willison on fire, nice try. Burns hits post.

19-22

Kidney Stone
Kidney Stone
10 January, 2020 21:25
Freddieís kicking to touch is awful. Whereís Rhys when you need him?

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hasta
10 January, 2020 21:34
Jesus Christ, Ross Batty.

supermarinematt
supermarinematt
10 January, 2020 21:37
Poor game. We were poor for the most part. Line out was terrible in that second half, Fred couldn't hit touch, a ton of missed tackles. Never looked like scoring a try in the second half either. Got what we deserved in all honesty. I guess it was good experience for some of the young players though.

opti
Optimist
10 January, 2020 21:38
Lineout cost us. Canít argue with the difference between Priestlandís line-kicking and Burnsí - but midfield with Willison in it looks a bit more likely to crack a defence. We remain absolutely clueless with turnover ball though, however much Bayliss wins for us.

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Clarkey3k
10 January, 2020 21:38
A v inaccurate last 10-15mins cost us a win sadly...



Adopted players: 2020/21 A Watson; [20] T Faletau; [19] M V Vuuren; [18] T Faletau; [17] D Denton; [16] H. Agulla; [15] L Houston; [14] W Spencer; [13] F. Louw

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BathHalfFull
BathHalfFull
10 January, 2020 21:41
All in all I'm not too disappointed. Quins had a strong team out and we put up a better showing than expected. But for a lack of accuracy from Fred's touch kicking and batty's throwing we could have snuck that. We probably gave some soft tries there and could have won which is better than I expected upon seeing the team sheets.

Some real bonuses though - Willison looked sharp and some smart plays. Thought Green started really well, real shame he had to go off and hope he's back soon but then Fox looked good too. Some nice touched from TDG too and Hamer-Webb took his try well. Only blot (other than the loss of course) was Watson going off injured - early hoping it's nothing serious - did any see what happened?

bathstigg
bathstigg
10 January, 2020 21:44
Batty couldn't hit a barn door and Burns can't kick to touch. Utter@#$%&i think thats 6 concecutive Euro defeats on the bounce. Fed up of the lame excuses.

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hasta
10 January, 2020 21:44
How many penalties did Quins concede? Threw that away to be honest with incompetence on touch and lineout.

Hope Ant is ok. Max Green looked like something pinged which is a shame as it was nice to see an actual break from 9.

Willison looked good.

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hasta
10 January, 2020 21:45
Very irritating to have lost twice to a mediocre at best Quins team. Need to make up for that in the league.

Kidney Stone
Kidney Stone
10 January, 2020 21:49
Agree BHF. Real positives were Jackson Willisonís return, and a great show from Fox and Gabe. Nixon was solid when he came on and the best I have seen the Boyce Judge combo.

Hope Hooper keeps a similar team for next week.

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hasta
10 January, 2020 22:00
Would agree that the same team should play next week. TdG starting at 15.

BathMatt53
BathMatt53
10 January, 2020 22:01
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Agree BHF. Real positives were Jackson Willisonís return, and a great show from Fox and Gabe. Nixon was solid when he came on and the best I have seen the Boyce Judge combo.
Hope Hooper keeps a similar team for next week.

Agreed totally. Willison a breath of fresh air. Decent result that from such a lot of changes. Fun to watch.



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ballsout
ballsout
10 January, 2020 22:13
Such a weak club.

We were never in that. Regardless of our fourteen screw ups in the last five minutes.

Yet another team utterly schools us in attack, at home.

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Rawce
10 January, 2020 22:26
Gutted for Max Green. He looked in bits. Heads up, youíll come back stronger.

Lucky Quins didnít play their first team or weíd have been humiliated.

BathMatt53
BathMatt53
10 January, 2020 22:30
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ballsout
Such a weak club.
We were never in that. Regardless of our fourteen screw ups in the last five minutes.

Yet another team utterly schools us in attack, at home.

Hogwash. We were both winning at half time and also had 68%. To say that we were Ďnever in thatí is ridiculous. Also that the team who scored 3 tries Ďschooledí the one who scored 4, 2 of which were from the backs. Yes they were better and more experienced in the end but it was hardly a hammering.

(Nice and quick on the forum after a loss though, thatís a surprise)



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annie blackthorn
annie blackthorn
10 January, 2020 22:36
Just logged on ot find out result. Crossing fingers before it came on screen..
So we lost again.

Half time ok and then disintegration.

This has just got to be half-time lack of tearing strips of them, pointing out errors, kicking up backsides etc.
Just like at Glaws. Time for whoever is detailed to stop worrying about what the boss says and get on with it.

ballsout
ballsout
10 January, 2020 22:48
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BathMatt53
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ballsout
Such a weak club.
We were never in that. Regardless of our fourteen screw ups in the last five minutes.

Yet another team utterly schools us in attack, at home.

Hogwash. We were both winning at half time and also had 68%. To say that we were Ďnever in thatí is ridiculous. Also that the team who scored 3 tries Ďschooledí the one who scored 4, 2 of which were from the backs. Yes they were better and more experienced in the end but it was hardly a hammering.

(Nice and quick on the forum after a loss though, thatís a surprise)

Once again we offered nothing in the second half. It was just blunder after blunder when we had the ball. Youíre deluding yourself if you think the sides performed to the same standard.

As for your cheap shot, I didnít bother posting after another team, this time Gloucester, schooled us 4 tries to zero last week. I wonít post much anymore about this one. Iím past caring tbh. Hopefully more losses will finally pish some long overdue change at this club. Certainly hoping we donít sneak into the top 6 on the last day of the season and offer f all in the big boys cup the following year.

Fact is, thatís now the worst European run in the clubís history. Great job Bath.

Anyone remember the last time we put a big score on another team and thrashed someone. Or put in an amazing performance to be proud of? Me neither.



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FourSticks
10 January, 2020 22:49
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Hasta
Jesus Christ, Ross Batty.

Not on that showing he isn't.

dcsh
dcsh
10 January, 2020 22:52
Willison made a difference with 4 offloads which seemed to give momentum.

BathMatt53
BathMatt53
10 January, 2020 22:53
Offering little in the second half (I agree btw) is different from never having been in it. Given the gulf in experience I thought that there were some real positives, particularly in terms of individual performances. The kids didnít look out of place either.

Shame about the injuries - Green looked like ankle / Achilles to me and the poor lad was understandably devastated.



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TomReagan
TomReagan
10 January, 2020 22:54
First half thought we played the most enterprising rugby I've seen at the Rec for a while. In the second half mistakes and the line out falling apart stopped us building pressure but still some good stuff from both sides. Pack good in the scrum and back row superb. Love watching Williams tackle. I came away entertained and feeling quite positive. Freddie the usual curate's egg, a mix of excellent and dreadful so I can see why Hooper goes with RP. That was our second team, which says a lot about the depth of the squad. At least they tried offloading and all so much quicker than vs Glos. They need to try and play like that all the time though--such a change from usual style of rugby so no wonder they made mistakes.

TomReagan
TomReagan
10 January, 2020 23:35
Two final positives whilst I'm in Pollyanna mode, echoing other posters. Willison made such a difference to our attacking play and, as Kidney Stone noted (I'm assuming not ironically) the ref was excellent. Fair at allowing a contest at the breakdown, good at reffing offside and actually expected line out throws to be straight.

Bath Hammer
Bath Hammer
10 January, 2020 23:55
So, West Ham score a goal in the last seconds to gain an invaluable point but have it ruled out by VAR for an utterly ridiculous hand-ball. On top of that Bath loose - again - & then I hear that our one first team player who turned out tonight limped off & is doubtful for the 6 Nations & more importantly for Bath. On top of that we lose a scrum half who was playing well & could have replaced Cooke going forward. Can things get worse!

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hemington
10 January, 2020 23:57
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So, West Ham score a goal in the last seconds to gain an invaluable point but have it ruled out by VAR for an utterly ridiculous hand-ball. On top of that Bath loose - again - & then I hear that our one first team player who turned out tonight limped off & is doubtful for the 6 Nations & more importantly for Bath. On top of that we lose a scrum half who was playing well & could have replaced Cooke going forward. Can things get worse!

Eeyore continues to post?!!

Bathovalballer
Bathovalballer
11 January, 2020 00:03
Ref was top class. Heard Sinckler swear at the touch judge after one skewed throw. Never seen so many not straights. Good at scrum as well where I thought we did well against a bigger and more experienced pack.

Came away feeling good and very hopeful for the future. Many of the youngsters put in a good shift, esp. Bayliss, Fox and Hammer-Webb. Shame our line out fell apart, possibly Batty's throwing, in second half, as we could have nicked it at the death. Mind you if we had kicked all of the penalties instead of hoping to score from a driven line out, we would have won!

Young Max Green looked sharp and was very upset at the end and walking on crutches. Great shame as he had started so well.

Although we lost with a little more accuracy and being able to tackle Dombrant, we could and should have won that. At least we were in the hunt which is not always the case in recent years.



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Bathovalballer
Bathovalballer
11 January, 2020 00:06
What is wrong with Watson? Thought he took a bang in the leg or ankle but not chronic. Great shame if out for a long time.



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ChippenhamRoman
ChippenhamRoman
11 January, 2020 00:08
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bathstigg
Batty couldn't hit a barn door and Burns can't kick to touch. Utter@#$%&i think thats 6 concecutive Euro defeats on the bounce. Fed up of the lame excuses.

Iím sure our luck will change away to Ulster.

J

TomReagan
TomReagan
11 January, 2020 00:25
Bath Hammer... A few chinks of light perhaps. AW tried to play on so wasn't like previous, devastating injuries. Press always hype things up pre-6 Nations. Fox looked good replacing Green, whose injury was clearly quite a bad one. As for the football, a bit trickier to cheer you up. All I can offer is that you'll probably be better off under Moyes than Pelligrini, but then as a Norwich fan I'm a bit short of sympathy!

Big Chief Little Chief
Big Chief Little Chief
11 January, 2020 00:52
As a neutral, I'd be far more upset if I was a Quins fan. That was a international front row which only achieved parity with a second choice Bath one. To me, Quins look like all is not well. They could well be in trouble come the end of the season.

I also couldn't decide if the ref was excellent or terrible, it was such a shock to see lineout throws pinged so often ( correctly) that it just confused me !

Also , how frustrating is Freddie Burns? Moments of class followed by really silly errors.

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