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Discussion started by BathMatt53 (IP Logged), 22 March, 2020 10:26
BathMatt53
BathMatt53
22 March, 2020 10:26
Saw this on RIL page. ‘Name an XI for your team but every position has to be a different nationality’. Who would be in Baths 15? (I think we should allow place of birth as well as international colours?)



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shipwrecked
22 March, 2020 10:53
To clarify Matt is it an XI or XV?



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BathMatt53
BathMatt53
22 March, 2020 10:55
sorry, the original question was for football or rugby - it is a 15.

This is my selection:

1 Beno Obano - england
2 Jonathan Humphries - wales
3 Paulica Ion - romania
4 Justin Harrison - australia
5 Ryan Caldwell - ireland
6 David Denton - zimbabwe
7 Dan Lyle - USA
8 Amanaki Mafi - Japan
9 Kahn Fotuali'i - samoa
10 butch james - south africa
11 Horacio Agulla argentina
12 Daniel Bowden - new zealand
13 Cooper Vuna - tonga
14 Semesa Rokoduguni - fiji
15 Nick Abendanon - holland

(who knew that Nick Abendanon had Dutch nationality!)



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shipwrecked
22 March, 2020 11:04
So Nick Abendanon is not only is a Dutch national playing in France with a England cap but was also born in South Africa!



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shipwrecked
22 March, 2020 11:08
You do realise you have nicked all the easy picks don't you! What have you got against the Scots as well? Not so easy now.



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hasta
22 March, 2020 11:10
Denton actually has caps for Scotland as well...

BathMatt53
BathMatt53
22 March, 2020 11:14
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shipwrecked
You do realise you have nicked all the easy picks don't you! What have you got against the Scots as well? Not so easy now.

Yep, I thought that I would get in first. I wanted Elvis and Danny G in there but couldn't quite wangle it.



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gaz59
gaz59
22 March, 2020 11:30
I'd forgotten we had the Plank in our colours

Old Bath Tub
Old Bath Tub
22 March, 2020 11:36
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gaz59
I'd forgotten we had the Plank in our colours

Irrespective of the off field antics I always enjoyed watching him literally put his head on the line !(Sm128)



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BathMatt53
BathMatt53
22 March, 2020 11:47
There were also ones from France, Scotland, Italy that I could think of, but not too many others. Don’t think we have had Spain, Russia, Namibia etc?



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shipwrecked
22 March, 2020 12:03
Does Banners count from Jersey?



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Disunited
Disunited
22 March, 2020 12:22
Kevin Yates (born 6 November 1972 in Medicine Hat, Alberta, Canada) is an English rugby union player who played at Prop for Nice in the French Fédérale 1. Yates professional career began at Bath.

Bath Supporter Jack
Bath Supporter Jack
22 March, 2020 13:26
How interesting.

Bendy should be a poster boy for the United Nations with that many countries connected to him!(Sm42)

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Robbinho
22 March, 2020 13:51
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BathMatt53
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shipwrecked
You do realise you have nicked all the easy picks don't you! What have you got against the Scots as well? Not so easy now.

Yep, I thought that I would get in first. I wanted Elvis and Danny G in there but couldn't quite wangle it.

Jon Preston at 9 and Elvis at 12? Does the job.

There’s Ramiro Pez from Italy who could go at 10, freeing up a South African space. Mike Williams at 6 in place of Denton, as an uncapped Zimbabwean in place of a Scottish-capped one.

Vuna on the wing instead of Roko (English caps) and replace with Matavesi (or Nicky Little).

David Bory at full back instead of Bendy?

BathMatt53
BathMatt53
22 March, 2020 14:17
Sisi Italian also. The Beechen Cliff Spanish 7s international Diego Periel is / was in the Bath junior academy I think?



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Clarkey3k
22 March, 2020 15:22
My XV after BM53 gets the easy picks (Sm150) includes;

1 Sole - Scotland
2 Dixon - Namibia/Zimbabwe?
3 Filise - Tonga
4 Hakin - Ireland
5 Michel van der Loos - Holland [one of the most capped Dutch internationals]
6 Hall - England
7 Sisi - Italy
8 Faletau- Wales
9 Preston - NZ
10 Little - Fiji
11 C Walker - Wigan [rugby league is a foreign land imho]
12 Tapuai - Aus
13 Fleck - SA
14 Bory - Fra
15 Agulla - Arg



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Never In Doubt
Never In Doubt
22 March, 2020 15:31
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Clarkey3k
My XV-1 after BM53 gets the easy picks (Sm150) includes;
1 Sole - Scotland
2 Mendez - Argentina
3 Filise - Tonga
4 Hakin - Ireland
5 ? - Holland [one of the most capped internationals in rugby history]
6 Hall - England
7 Sisi - Italy
8 Faletau- Wales
9 Preston - NZ
10 Little - Fiji
11 C Walker - Wigan [rugby league is a foreign land imho]
12 Tapuai - Aus
13 Fleck - SA
14 Bory - Fra
15 ? Help needed..

Put Underhill at 7 (USA), then you can have Pez at 10, Matawalu at 9 and Robbie Kydd at 15.

Never In Doubt
Never In Doubt
22 March, 2020 15:33
Quote:
Never In Doubt
Quote:
Clarkey3k
My XV-1 after BM53 gets the easy picks (Sm150) includes;
1 Sole - Scotland
2 Mendez - Argentina
3 Filise - Tonga
4 Hakin - Ireland
5 ? - Holland [one of the most capped internationals in rugby history]
6 Hall - England
7 Sisi - Italy
8 Faletau- Wales
9 Preston - NZ
10 Little - Fiji
11 C Walker - Wigan [rugby league is a foreign land imho]
12 Tapuai - Aus
13 Fleck - SA
14 Bory - Fra
15 ? Help needed..

Put Underhill at 7 (USA), then you can have Pez at 10, Matawalu at 9 and Robbie Kydd at 15.

And if you are picking a winger from league then there is only one choice .... Jason Robinson.

Never In Doubt
Never In Doubt
22 March, 2020 15:38
Quote:
Clarkey3k
My XV after BM53 gets the easy picks (Sm150) includes;
1 Sole - Scotland
2 The Namibia/Zimbabwe guy we had in the Conolly era...
3 Filise - Tonga
4 Hakin - Ireland
5 ? - Holland [one of the most capped internationals in rugby history]
6 Hall - England
7 Sisi - Italy
8 Faletau- Wales
9 Preston - NZ
10 Little - Fiji
11 C Walker - Wigan [rugby league is a foreign land imho]
12 Tapuai - Aus
13 Fleck - SA
14 Bory - Fra
15 Agulla - Arg

The hooker you are looking for is Pieter Dixon.

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shipwrecked
22 March, 2020 15:40
Whilst we are on the topic of Sam Underhill this is a great little video of his hits:





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Never In Doubt
Never In Doubt
22 March, 2020 15:47
Admitting defeat at who is your no.5 but I could suggest Jonny Fa'amatuainu (Samoa).

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shipwrecked
22 March, 2020 16:00
Marc Visser, Tim's dad!



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Clarkey3k
22 March, 2020 16:10
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Never In Doubt
Admitting defeat at who is your no.5 but I could suggest Jonny Fa'amatuainu (Samoa).

He played in the Chris Lilley era and I only know of him because he told us this story about him unless it was just a tall tale. Bath were playing Bristol [mid week maybe] and a particularly hard prop for them [a hells angel when not in a Bris shirt] took the field and the Bath lads thought here we go, it's going to be one of those nights in the scrum and loose. This Dutch guy, who had no fear apparently, found him at the first contact, punched him hard in the face and laid him out. I recount this tale only as the messenger offering a piece of social history rather than condoning violence. The Dutch guy, a lock forward, is one of the most capped players in Dutch rugby history - Michel van der Loos



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shipwrecked
22 March, 2020 17:10
Good story, I didn't think we had a Visser playing for Bath!



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Never In Doubt
Never In Doubt
22 March, 2020 17:20
Good knowledge. Kudos.

gaz59
gaz59
22 March, 2020 20:14
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Never In Doubt
Quote:
Clarkey3k
My XV after BM53 gets the easy picks (Sm150) includes;
1 Sole - Scotland
2 The Namibia/Zimbabwe guy we had in the Conolly era...
3 Filise - Tonga
4 Hakin - Ireland
5 ? - Holland [one of the most capped internationals in rugby history]
6 Hall - England
7 Sisi - Italy
8 Faletau- Wales
9 Preston - NZ

10 Little - Fiji
11 C Walker - Wigan [rugby league is a foreign land imho]
12 Tapuai - Aus
13 Fleck - SA
14 Bory - Fra
15 Agulla - Arg

The hooker you are looking for is Pieter Dixon.

Another legend dragged from the memory bank. He was outstanding as player and clubman

Thank you NiD

BathMatt53
BathMatt53
22 March, 2020 20:16
Thanks for engaging COMLuvvers, got the old grey matter going for a bit and brought back a few memories...



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shipwrecked
22 March, 2020 20:29
Ooo... hang on I've just remembered, Steve Ojomoh. Nigeria. The flanker who thought he was a centre!



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BathMatt53
BathMatt53
22 March, 2020 20:35
Chapeaud SW.



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opti
Optimist
23 March, 2020 09:30
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Old Bath Tub
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gaz59
I'd forgotten we had the Plank in our colours

Irrespective of the off field antics I always enjoyed watching him literally put his head on the line !(Sm128)

How very yesterday his concussion-as-Bambi-on-ice routine seems nowadays!

Bath Supporter Jack
Bath Supporter Jack
23 March, 2020 11:48
Di I recall Opti that he played on........or more precisely was allowed to play on

sid the seagull
sid the seagull
23 March, 2020 12:41
And of course there were at least three other Nigerians.

PECK

opti
Optimist
23 March, 2020 14:08
played on ... was allowed to play on ... and the crowd loved his wobbly-legs schtick. And that's just 10 years ago. Horrendous to think of the number of players who were just waved on up until, what, 5 years ago?

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FourSticks
24 March, 2020 14:15
Some more to throw into the mix:

Adedayo Adebayo - Nigeria (I can think of another two Nigerians - Ade's brother Tokunbo and the mighty Victor Ubogu)
Alessio Galasso - Senegal
Peter Heindorff - Germany
and if we go back a lonnnng way, Stanley Ulick Considine - India

If I were to pick my favourite Kiwi, I'd have to opt for Joe 'Mad-dog' Maddock.

opti
Optimist
24 March, 2020 15:16
As long as Butch James is at 10 I don't really care about the rest. How good would our current squad be right now with Butch at 10.

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hasta
24 March, 2020 23:48
Under current high tackle laws?

Bepetas
Bepetas
25 March, 2020 15:01
May have pushed the rules a bit, but here are two teams...

1 - David Sole - Scotland
2 - Frederico Mendez - Argentina
3 - Victor Ubogu - born Nigeria
4 - Damian Cronin - born West Germany
5 - Nigel Redman - born Wales
6 - John Hall - England
7 - Sam Underhill - born USA
8 - Taulupe Faletau - born Tonga
9 - Peter Stringer - Ireland
10 - Butch James - South Africa
11 - Matt Banahan - Jersey
12 - John Palmer - born Malta
13 - Matt Carraro - Australia
14 - Semesa Rokoduguni - born Fiji
15 - Joe Maddock - New Zealand

1 - Kevin Yates - born Canada
2 - Jon Humphries - Wales
3 - Taufa'ao Filise - Tonga
4 - Mike Williams - Zimbabwe
5 - Danny Grewcock - England
6 - Steve Ojomoh - Nigeria
7 - Roger Spurrell - Cornwall
8 - Amanaki Mafi - Japan
9 - Kahn Fotuali'I - Samoa
10 - Shaun Berne - Australian
11 - Fred Sagoe - Ghana
12 - Kevin Maggs - Ireland
13 - James Wilson - New Zealand
14 - Horacio Agulla - Argentina
15 - Nick Abendanon - South Africa

BathMatt53
BathMatt53
25 March, 2020 15:21
Very good work Bepetas!



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shipwrecked
25 March, 2020 15:26
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Bepetas
May have pushed the rules a bit, but here are two teams...

7 - Roger Spurrell - Cornwall

I'll live with Wales and even Jersey but Corwall (Sm112)



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Mike the Taxi
Mike the Taxi
25 March, 2020 15:54
If Spurrell qualifies, so does Graham Dawe!!

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Clarkey3k
25 March, 2020 19:26
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If Spurrell qualifies, so does Graham Dawe!!

and Barry Travaskis. Think we need a Cornish born Bath XV list too (Sm109)



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Mike the Taxi
Mike the Taxi
25 March, 2020 19:34
Cornish Rugby Players according to Wiki:

Rugby union football

Olly Barkley, international and Premiership rugby player with Bath Rugby
Ben Gollings, rugby player, of England Sevens, and Rugby Lions
Francis Gregory, Cornish wrestler, boxer, rugby union footballer and rugby league footballer
Roger Hosen, international rugby player
John Kendall-Carpenter, England international rugby union captain[2]
Josh Matavesi, Cornish-Fijian player
Richard Nancekivell, rugby player
Jack Nowell (born 1993), international and Premiership rugby player with Exeter Chiefs
Andy Reed, international rugby player who played for Bath RFC and won 18 caps for Scotland
Vic Roberts, international rugby player
Geoffrey Rowe, rugby player and comedian
Richard Sharp, international rugby player of the 1960s who captained England and won 14 caps
Barney Solomon, rugby union player who captained the silver medal winning Great Britain team in the 1908 Olympics
Brian 'Stack' Stevens, international rugby and British Lions player who won 25 caps for England
Rob Thirlby (1989–1992), England international rugby sevens player[7][8]
Phil Vickery, international rugby player and World Cup winner
Tom Voyce, international and Premiership rugby player with London Wasps
Hugh Vyvyan, international and Premiership rugby player
Trevor Woodman, international rugby player and World Cup winner


That should help get started!

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Clarkey3k
25 March, 2020 19:45
Quote:
Mike the Taxi
Cornish Rugby Players according to Wiki:
Rugby union football

Olly Barkley, international and Premiership rugby player with Bath Rugby
Ben Gollings, rugby player, of England Sevens, and Rugby Lions
Francis Gregory, Cornish wrestler, boxer, rugby union footballer and rugby league footballer
Roger Hosen, international rugby player
John Kendall-Carpenter, England international rugby union captain[2]
Josh Matavesi, Cornish-Fijian player
Richard Nancekivell, rugby player
Jack Nowell (born 1993), international and Premiership rugby player with Exeter Chiefs
Andy Reed, international rugby player who played for Bath RFC and won 18 caps for Scotland
Vic Roberts, international rugby player
Geoffrey Rowe, rugby player and comedian
Richard Sharp, international rugby player of the 1960s who captained England and won 14 caps
Barney Solomon, rugby union player who captained the silver medal winning Great Britain team in the 1908 Olympics
Brian 'Stack' Stevens, international rugby and British Lions player who won 25 caps for England
Rob Thirlby (1989–1992), England international rugby sevens player[7][8]
Phil Vickery, international rugby player and World Cup winner
Tom Voyce, international and Premiership rugby player with London Wasps
Hugh Vyvyan, international and Premiership rugby player
Trevor Woodman, international rugby player and World Cup winner


That should help get started!

First glance bold highlights for those who have played for Bath Rugby... Amended after posts below and with my specs on!!



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Mike the Taxi
Mike the Taxi
25 March, 2020 19:51
There's a few mentioned further up the thread that aren't on that list. Graham Dawe, apparently, was born in Plymouth.
And, Andy Reed is on that list, C3k!

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FourSticks
25 March, 2020 21:24
John Kendall-Carpenter was at Bath for 4 years and Bath captain 1955-56.
and Trevor Woodman started at Bath (played one game for us before joining Gloucester)

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shipwrecked
25 March, 2020 22:08
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There's a few mentioned further up the thread that aren't on that list. Graham Dawe, apparently, was born in Plymouth. And, Andy Reed is on that list, C3k!

Plymouth is in Devon Mike!



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Mike the Taxi
Mike the Taxi
25 March, 2020 22:18
If Cornwall counts, then so must Devon!

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shipwrecked
25 March, 2020 22:30
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If Cornwall counts, then so must Devon!

Oh yes, perfectly logical, silly me!



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joethefanatic
25 March, 2020 22:47
No one's used German Llanes (Arg) yet... smiling smiley



... IMHO, of course.

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P G Tips
P G Tips
26 March, 2020 06:51
For good reason Joe?



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sid the seagull
sid the seagull
27 March, 2020 21:36
David Bory folk, drastic lack of Frenchmen in all those lists.

HOP


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