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Watching at Sixways
Discussion started by Sheldon , 24 June, 2020 12:03
Watching at Sixways
Sheldon 24 June, 2020 12:03
Given the changes to social distancing etc yesterday does anyone think we might be able to watch home matches at Sixways from August?

Re: Watching at Sixways
TrueWarrior 24 June, 2020 13:48
Hoping so.

I saw a news article that talked of being able to have 4 thousand people in each ground but I cant see how a uniform 4 thousand is correct as surely each ground will have a different amount based on space.

The 2 big issues I can see are toilets and serving food/drink. If a toilet doesnt have one exit in and one exit out, I can't see that it will be open.

I dont know how many season ticket holders we have but one would imagine they would get priority on any tickets and a good percentage of them would get tickets for each game. May have to work on a ballot system.

Re: Watching at Sixways
Garym 25 June, 2020 09:35
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TrueWarrior
Hoping so.
I saw a news article that talked of being able to have 4 thousand people in each ground but I cant see how a uniform 4 thousand is correct as surely each ground will have a different amount based on space.

The 2 big issues I can see are toilets and serving food/drink. If a toilet doesnt have one exit in and one exit out, I can't see that it will be open.

I dont know how many season ticket holders we have but one would imagine they would get priority on any tickets and a good percentage of them would get tickets for each game. May have to work on a ballot system.

The article you saw , said that for a 15!000 capacity you might get 4!000 in. So given we have less than that, we will be below the 4,000 as it currently stands. Who knows what it will actually be.

Re: Watching at Sixways
Drutz 25 June, 2020 12:23
It could be that the stands are open but no bars, or limited.

Might be to start with you basically turn up, watch the match and the ground closes straight afterwards.



Pulling the boots on for one more year

Re: Watching at Sixways
BantamWarrior 25 June, 2020 17:17
The clubs will need to carefully look at the options to avoid losing a lot of money if they can't have bars and shops open

If the grounds are open, its a good chance that the limited number of seats available will be taken by Season ticket holders, so there will be no extra cash revenue. A very high percentage of these people had "gifted" their remaining balance to clubs rather than asking for it to be repaid. So by holding the games with fans watching the clubs will receive no extra sales income and save nothing on ticket refunds.

The costs of running a game with fans in the ground is however significantly greater than running a game empty. Stewards, safety staff, ticket barrier staff, etc, etc. If these costs can't be offset by money taken in food, drink and merchandise then the clubs would actually be better off financially holding the games behind closed doors.

Obviously I would much rather the games were held with supporters and I would desperately want to be one of those in the ground - but I don't think it will be an easy a decision for clubs to make - even if they are allowed to.

Re: Watching at Sixways
ROLLO 25 June, 2020 20:23
If soccer can't manage it I can't see how rugby will.

Re: Watching at Sixways
Abmatt 25 June, 2020 23:09
If it did happen I think weíll get a 2500-3000 capacity with no standing. Limited bars, possibly only in the fanzone and at the south stand.

Re: Watching at Sixways
Sheldon 06 July, 2020 11:54
There's been very little on this in the last two weeks . Has anyone picked up on anything like home and away games, only one or two venues, spectators allowed etc?

Re: Watching at Sixways
Abmatt 06 July, 2020 12:30
There has been very little coming out of the PRL.
Nothing about what the remaining season will look like.
The last press release was about moving to stage 2 training. The last release about the league was about the 15 Aug return. That was well over a month ago.

Re: Watching at Sixways
Faithful_City 06 July, 2020 14:09
Nope, not heard a thing Sheldon.

Suspect we could be getting some summer rugby next season.

JP

Re: Watching at Sixways
usa warrior 06 July, 2020 20:52
Fixtures due to be released this week, midweek games feature, starting w/c 24th August.

Current guidelines, with a lot of luck, suggest that we could possibly be back into Sixways by September.

Re: Watching at Sixways
Sheldon 07 July, 2020 10:44
USA do you mean the reduction to 1 metre. I guess we could get the stadium quarter full but would that cover the daily cost? Hopefully we will get some clarity this week!

Re: Watching at Sixways
Abmatt 07 July, 2020 13:01
Iím sorry USA, but Iím highly sceptical we will be watching rugby at a ground in September. I donít think spectators will be allowed until at least October.

If you look at countries like Israel they have had a massive spike once restrictions were lifted. I believe the same will happen here.

Re: Watching at Sixways
Faithful_City 07 July, 2020 14:10
I donít think the new season will start until Nov/Dec anyway.

This season will, I feel, end behind closed doors

JP

Re: Watching at Sixways
ROLLO 07 July, 2020 14:39
Correct JP, that is of course if it ends at all.

Re: Watching at Sixways
nsw1654 08 July, 2020 19:53
Just seen the BBC article about Positive COVID-19 tests at several premiership clubs, Players and staff. Very wishful thinking I feel if we will be sitting at Sixways anytime soon. Perhaps there will be second thoughts about resuming on 15/8 ?

Re: Watching at Sixways
ROLLO 08 July, 2020 19:59
Two tested positive at Wuss.

Re: Watching at Sixways
usa warrior 09 July, 2020 16:40
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Sheldon
USA do you mean the reduction to 1 metre. I guess we could get the stadium quarter full but would that cover the daily cost? Hopefully we will get some clarity this week!

No, I mean what I was told re sporting events and the current guidance about when supporters could return. Clearly distancing is a component of that, but all dependent on what the national situation is at that time.

And, irregardless of when next season starts, we will still be playing THIS season in September.

Announced this afternoon that some outdoor spectator events can resume on July 11th so sports events can't be too far away now, surely?



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Re: Watching at Sixways
WRC 09 July, 2020 21:51
Bumped into a few Bath players this week on a golf course down that way - They have been told that new season will start on Saturday 15th November .

Re: Watching at Sixways
Abmatt 09 July, 2020 21:52
That ties in with the lower leagues starting.

Re: Watching at Sixways
WorcesterSauce 09 July, 2020 22:55
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Sheldon
USA do you mean the reduction to 1 metre. I guess we could get the stadium quarter full but would that cover the daily cost? Hopefully we will get some clarity this week!

No, I mean what I was told re sporting events and the current guidance about when supporters could return. Clearly distancing is a component of that, but all dependent on what the national situation is at that time.

And, irregardless of when next season starts, we will still be playing THIS season in September.

Announced this afternoon that some outdoor spectator events can resume on July 11th so sports events can't be too far away now, surely?

Youíd hope not but fear that as soon as we are allowed back into sports grounds social distancing really will become a thing of the past.

Re: Watching at Sixways
w4rriorz1980 09 July, 2020 23:13
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WRC
Bumped into a few Bath players this week on a golf course down that way - They have been told that new season will start on Saturday 15th November .
So let me get this straight.
Circa August 15th the Premiership will resume.
9 games for some including us.More for those finishing top 4 & still in European competition.

Taking just the teams that will only play 9 games;

In normal circumstances 9 games would take around 2 months give or take.

Obviously what is being mooted is that the remaining league games are going to be completed over a far shorter time window especially if what above stated is true about the NEW SEASON starting mid November.

Say the 9 games are abridged to say around 1 month which in itself would be dangerous for the players,what of the teams who are in the play-offs & Europe? Even worse for those lucky enough to be in both!

They'd be 1.5 months at best if for pre season for a mid November start.There is at least 4 months for any given pre-season.

What with Sarries already relegated i guess condensing so many games into a short space of time can be negated by utilising a WHOLE squad so not to prevent burn out.This would be particularly advantageous to those in the play-offs & the latter stages of Europe.

Taking ourselves if we have to play 9 games in a short space of time do we try play our best team each game to try & get top 6 & Heineken Cup rugby or do we look after our players and utilise our entire squad knowing we can't be demoted?

If the new season did start in mid November then it would finish circa July/August 2021 then there would be the c.3-4 months pre-season then the 21-22 season would start Nov/Dec 21 and so forth.

Would we ever get a season resuming late Aug/early Sept again without compromising the safety of the players by having truncated pre-seasons just to start at said months of Aug/Sept?

IMHO opinion a lot of questions that still need answers not least for Sarries who maybe in the unique position of competing in the Premiership & the Championship concurrently!



Eats,Shoots And Leaves

Re: Watching at Sixways
Garym 10 July, 2020 06:47
According to the wasps twitter feed, fixtures for rest of this season, announced at 4pm today. Also next seasons European finals confirmed in Marseilles for weekend of May 20th, so they are assuming a normal time frame for European matches.

What it all means, havenít a clue!

Re: Watching at Sixways
Abmatt 10 July, 2020 08:38
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Garym
According to the wasps twitter feed, fixtures for rest of this season, announced at 4pm today. Also next seasons European finals confirmed in Marseilles for weekend of May 20th, so they are assuming a normal time frame for European matches.
What it all means, havenít a clue!

Just to clarify though, this wasnít on the official wasps twitter feed. Not saying it isnít true but......

Re: Watching at Sixways
Garym 10 July, 2020 09:00
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Garym
According to the wasps twitter feed, fixtures for rest of this season, announced at 4pm today. Also next seasons European finals confirmed in Marseilles for weekend of May 20th, so they are assuming a normal time frame for European matches.
What it all means, havenít a clue!

Just to clarify though, this wasnít on the official wasps twitter feed. Not saying it isnít true but......

I have also had an email from premiership rugby this morning saying 35 days to go to resumption of the season

Re: Watching at Sixways
Abmatt 10 July, 2020 10:03
I had the same. But we knew that anyway as itís the 15 Aug. What we donít know and need confirming is the actual fixtures to be played and where.
It would be good to have some news as I think the PRLís communications have been quite poor.

Re: Watching at Sixways
BantamWarrior 10 July, 2020 10:05
Today's Times reports that the RFU wants the new season to start with half full grounds (and fans wearing facemasks). That would seem to indicate that the rest of this season will be behind closed doors and next season will start with fans - but limited to about 6,000 at sixways

Re: Watching at Sixways
WorcesterSauce 10 July, 2020 10:09
Thatís great news! Presumably itíll be the same for other sports. May also be trickier with grounds with significant standing areas like Exeter and Gloucester

Re: Watching at Sixways
Abmatt 10 July, 2020 10:11
That is good and makes sense.

Re: Watching at Sixways
Abmatt 10 July, 2020 14:54

Re: Watching at Sixways
Garym 10 July, 2020 16:32
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Garym
According to the wasps twitter feed, fixtures for rest of this season, announced at 4pm today. Also next seasons European finals confirmed in Marseilles for weekend of May 20th, so they are assuming a normal time frame for European matches.
What it all means, havenít a clue!

Just to clarify though, this wasnít on the official wasps twitter feed. Not saying it isnít true but......

And true it was. Glaws on the 15th and then Wasps, Quins and EXter over the next two weeks, other fixtures to be announced.

Interesting situation for LI as they are homeless!

Re: Watching at Sixways
w4rriorz1980 10 July, 2020 17:12
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Garym
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Abmatt
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Garym
According to the wasps twitter feed, fixtures for rest of this season, announced at 4pm today. Also next seasons European finals confirmed in Marseilles for weekend of May 20th, so they are assuming a normal time frame for European matches.
What it all means, havenít a clue!

Just to clarify though, this wasnít on the official wasps twitter feed. Not saying it isnít true but......

And true it was. Glaws on the 15th and then Wasps, Quins and EXter over the next two weeks, other fixtures to be announced.

Interesting situation for LI as they are homeless!
Loftus Road or Twickenham Stoop?

Re: Watching at Sixways
Abmatt 10 July, 2020 17:50
Indeed it was garym.

At least we know when the season is resuming for definite. I just wish someone would make a decision on open/closed doors.


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