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Willie John McBride's lament for modern-day rugby
Discussion started by Faithful_City , 06 October, 2020 19:59
Willie John McBride's lament for modern-day rugby
Faithful_City 06 October, 2020 19:59
Well worth the read and something the PRL and RFU should think about.

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Legendary British and Irish Lions skipper Willie John McBride has savaged modern-day rugby, claiming it has become an unedifying mixture of union, league and American football that is being wrecked by an injury crisis and the dominance of money.

Captain of the famed 1974 Lions that conquered South Africa, McBride was capped on 17 occasions for the tourists on five separate tours while he also won 63 Ireland caps before calling it quits in 1975.

Now aged 80, he has pulled no punches in the foreword for Saving Rugby Union, the newly published book written by Ross Reyburn and published by Y Lolfa which tackles the myriad of problems affecting the better development of professional rugby.


Full article HERE

Re: Willie John McBride's lament for modern-day rugby
NW2 07 October, 2020 06:33
As you would expect from such a legend, itís hard to argue against any of the points he makes. I definitely agree that whilst rucking could look brutal at the time, and maybe it was, there were very few, if any, serious injuries like in the modern game.

Re: Willie John McBride's lament for modern-day rugby
PMB 07 October, 2020 08:54
It also stopped players lying on the wrong side, certainly once they had tried it once!

Re: Willie John McBride's lament for modern-day rugby
Faithful_City 07 October, 2020 10:13
All these serious injuries started when referees turned a blind eye into players flying into the rucks and mauls head first usually directly into the body of an opposing players.

The flying in just got lower and lower and became the norm. It was against the law of tackling a player without the ball, it was dangerous and reckless play.

Referees let it go and coached pounced on the opportunity.

JP

Re: Willie John McBride's lament for modern-day rugby
Brummagem7's 07 October, 2020 19:29
Fair point about the sport becoming more like american football, especially with how stop start it is in today's game. Even worse that they want to bring in regional hubs and a draft system.

Re: Willie John McBride's lament for modern-day rugby
WorcesterSauce 08 October, 2020 08:18
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Faithful_City
All these serious injuries started when referees turned a blind eye into players flying into the rucks and mauls head first usually directly into the body of an opposing players.
The flying in just got lower and lower and became the norm. It was against the law of tackling a player without the ball, it was dangerous and reckless play.

Referees let it go and coached pounced on the opportunity.

JP

I think all these serious injuries started when players started getting bigger. Pre professionalism you would never get someone as big, fast, athletic and as physically strong as a lot of todays players

Re: Willie John McBride's lament for modern-day rugby
TVM Rides Again 08 October, 2020 09:55
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WorcesterSauce

I think all these serious injuries started when players started getting bigger. Pre professionalism you would never get someone as big, fast, athletic and as physically strong as a lot of todays players

Never a truer word spoken. These days a player retiring because they have had enough and no their body having had enough are the exception rather than the rule.

Sadly fixing the problem is much harder than identifying it.

Re: Willie John McBride's lament for modern-day rugby
Faithful_City 08 October, 2020 10:29
Most of us love the battle in the scrum but maybe it is time to revisit it.

Reduce it to 5 players Props and Locks reduce the team by 3 people(that'll cost wages as well), which will create more space on the outside which will encourage more open running play, which is likely to reduce the size of the forwards because they will be expected to be more athletic.

Still have a proper put in and hook

JP

Re: Willie John McBride's lament for modern-day rugby
Simba 08 October, 2020 10:48
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Faithful_City
Most of us love the battle in the scrum but maybe it is time to revisit it.
Reduce it to 5 players Props and Locks reduce the team by 3 people(that'll cost wages as well), which will create more space on the outside which will encourage more open running play, which is likely to reduce the size of the forwards because they will be expected to be more athletic.

Still have a proper put in and hook

JP

Go watch League if thatís what your after.
All it takes is for officials to apply the laws already in place.
But they seem unable to apply more than a couple of them.

Re: Willie John McBride's lament for modern-day rugby
Faithful_City 08 October, 2020 11:55
Simba, its not what I am after at all just an idea to create space and encourage running rugby.

It is a very difficult situation to control but tackling and entering the ruck or maul is where a lot of injuries occur.

I think maybe we have to accept that it is a violent contact sport, if we can protect the head and brain we are getting somewhere.

JP

Re: Willie John McBride's lament for modern-day rugby
Simba 08 October, 2020 16:59
I think a lot of the injuries occur due to poor technique from the tackler, head on the wrong side seems popular at the moment.

Re: Willie John McBride's lament for modern-day rugby
NW2 08 October, 2020 17:09
Read something by an ex-player a while back (canít remember who it was now) who put forward the idea of cutting down the number of replacements so that they could only be replaced for injuries rather than tactics. His thinking was that they would have to play for a full 80 minutes rather than 40 or 50, which would mean they would need to slim down / get fitter, rather than getting bigger and heavier, and so cut down the number of huge collisions. Donít know if it would work but it made sense when I read it.


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