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Discussion started by Tip (IP Logged), 08 September, 2019 15:00
Tip
Tip
08 September, 2019 15:00
Does the squad train in the evening and if so what time , when, and can supporters observe ?

HoboAl
HoboAl
08 September, 2019 15:35
I think it is all daytime now they are fulltime.

Tim Smith
Tim Smith
12 September, 2019 21:07
Does anyone know if there's an 'open' session during the week for anyone just to pop along to and watch the players train?

Chris Wearmouth
Chris Wearmouth
12 September, 2019 22:52
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Tim Smith
Does anyone know if there's an 'open' session during the week for anyone just to pop along to and watch the players train?

Not as a general rule, no. You can come and watch training this coming Saturday though as part of the Open Day!

Tim Smith
Tim Smith
12 September, 2019 23:48
Thanks for the prompt reply, Chris ..thought that was probably the case but worth asking the question.

BackTenRef?
BackTenRef?
13 September, 2019 08:03
For Chrisís benefit, Tim used to attend training with a small group of others and would feed back via his blog, All with Rolandís agreement, who would even come and talk to the fans when he had opportunity. Indeed his blog takes its name from the bus to training...

Chris Wearmouth
Chris Wearmouth
13 September, 2019 14:16
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BackTenRef?
For Chrisís benefit, Tim used to attend training with a small group of others and would feed back via his blog, All with Rolandís agreement, who would even come and talk to the fans when he had opportunity. Indeed his blog takes its name from the bus to training...

Thanks for the info.

Tim, if you wanted to come and watch a training session then you can drop me an email directly and we can arrange it. There will be some sessions which we would prefer to keep closed to the public, but there will be others which we'd be happy to have you come along to.

Tim Smith
Tim Smith
13 September, 2019 18:15
Thanks B10R and Chris...

...really wasn't my intention to cadge an invite, just wondered if there was an ad hoc arrangement open to anyone similar to the one B10R referred to.

Thanks again though, it's much appreciated.

Tim

BackTenRef?
BackTenRef?
13 September, 2019 19:18
@chris, Timís very good at not oversharing,

Sometimes in the past it was like reading a giddy, slightly smug school boy keeping a secret but he always did.

In the days when we lacked a dedicated PR/media person, Tim was all we had.

titchywinger
titchywinger
13 September, 2019 22:18
Tims blog was always the best read of the week.

HoboAl
HoboAl
13 September, 2019 22:23
Yes Tim writes really good stuff and ponders the questions we all ask. However he has a sense for the sensitive and what should be held back.

I am glad his blog seems to be resurfacing. In fact we have a few good bloggers, plus great local radio coverage by Alec Blackman. All we need is some competitive rugby to stoke the muse.

BackTenRef?
BackTenRef?
14 September, 2019 08:00
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HoboAl
Yes Tim writes really good stuff and ponders the questions we all ask. However he has a sense for the sensitive and what should be held back.
I am glad his blog seems to be resurfacing. In fact we have a few good bloggers, plus great local radio coverage by Alec Blackman. All we need is some competitive rugby to stoke the muse.

Just a shame the CET havenít reported in Cov for about a month

HoboAl
HoboAl
14 September, 2019 15:26
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BackTenRef?
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HoboAl
Yes Tim writes really good stuff and ponders the questions we all ask. However he has a sense for the sensitive and what should be held back.
I am glad his blog seems to be resurfacing. In fact we have a few good bloggers, plus great local radio coverage by Alec Blackman. All we need is some competitive rugby to stoke the muse.

Just a shame the CET havenít reported in Cov for about a month

Thats because they love Wasps. The CET is a shadow of the once great paper, not many buy it now anyway and their on line articles are pretty rubbish. CRFC would be better targeting media opportunities through Coventry Uni and Warwick Uni as there is a potential fanbase at both.

Chris Wearmouth
Chris Wearmouth
14 September, 2019 17:38
To be fair to Bobby, he and I have been in regular contact over the course of the summer. He has had to divide his time between sport and news, and his wife having a baby! So there are a couple of decent reasons!

Our door is always open to the Telegraph and to the BBC, and weíve got good relationships with both. Weíre also reaching out to the universities as well

HoboAl
HoboAl
14 September, 2019 19:29
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Chris Wearmouth
To be fair to Bobby, he and I have been in regular contact over the course of the summer. He has had to divide his time between sport and news, and his wife having a baby! So there are a couple of decent reasons!
Our door is always open to the Telegraph and to the BBC, and weíve got good relationships with both. Weíre also reaching out to the universities ast well

I am sure you do want god relationships with all media outlets. I dont blame individual journalists, I blame the format of CET and the current parameters journalistists have to work within.

CET website: Why You Shouldnt Eat Bananas Like This. Then: Sleeping With Your Dog Is Good For You.

This is what Richard Moon and Coventry Rugby Club is up against.

CET is dire. Their reportage on Coventry City Football Club is two days behind the fans forum. It should be fueling the forum.

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OldNick
14 September, 2019 20:19
A few frightening thoughts as to how time flies. The Pink closed in 2004, It was October 2006 that the Coventry Evening Telegraph became the Coventry Telegraph. 2012 that they closed their main Coventry office and moved to the Canal Basin.

The latest audited circulation figures (Jan-June 2019) average 9754 per day, uNder half what they were as recently as 2015. The paper edition along with many other regional papers is dying.

Coventry Live claims 11,000,000 page views per month. This may sound a lot, but this includes clicks through to the Ďsponsoredí pages (ie the advertisements that fund its existence). It is also magnified by the Ďclick baití style headlines, where article headlines are designed to not give information, but to tempt the reader to click through to the actual article where meaningful information is hidden away several screens down, so as to encourage the readers to read past numerous links to other articles including more sponsored articles.

If 2000 Coventry supporters each check the Coventry Rugby page five times a week, thatís 40,000 of their page views per month. If we look at their home page as well, itís 80,000.

It really is tiny numbers, itís the reason why so many of the articles are centrally manufactured, and put out across the Trinity Mirror group. Compared with when most I f us started watching Cov it is a very small shadow of its former self.

HoboAl
HoboAl
14 September, 2019 21:26
The Pink was a fantastic Sports off shoot from the Telegraph. People used to be waiting in line in the local newsagents, money already paid, especially if City had done well away.

All local sports covered from football and rugby to darts and dominos.

Healthy local leagues with good local clubs and factory teams. Even good Workingmens Clubs and Pub sides.

Another era unfortunately passed.

Coventry Rugby hopefully one of the few dusting ashes from its feathers.

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AdminBTCov
15 September, 2019 14:59
Me and dad always used to queue for The Pink at Bell Green on a Saturday. It always amazed me how quickly it was written and distributed after the final whistles at HR and CR (etc).
Even before the advent of electronic publishing.
Good memories, and a greatly-missed aspect of my childhood back in the fifties/sixties.

Diesel74
Diesel74
15 September, 2019 19:08
I am saddened by the Telegraph's demise as much as any, given my personal ties.

But, let's be honest - Coventry Rugby's average attendance last season was 2,307 (up on previous seasons).

Wasps was 16,161.

It doesn't matter what anyone thinks, amid claims of tickets being given away or whether those Wasps fans are from Warwick, Wycombe, London or Timbuktu. Wasps have a greater engagement on match days and the Telegraph wants to reflect that, cash in on it (not a flogging offence) or promote that engagement - with both clubs.

Figures would dictate the bigger club gets the bigger coverage. When I was desking in Stoke-on-Trent, Stoke City had the lions' share of coverage and Port Vale fewer column inches on average. It happens.

Back then, we had bigger editorial halls, bigger sports desk, just like when the CET produced the Pink. When we had dedicated journos for Cov Rugby, Cov City, Cov Bees...whether I like it or not, life ain't like that in newsrooms today.

As I understand it, with so few working journos, we're lucky to even have a rugby reporter at Cov. But Wasps has the bigger audience, it's in the premiership, it has the internationals playing, the glamour ties, European rugby. When I started my journalistic career in the 1980s we had 100 journos at Corporation Street and sold 92,000 copies a day.

I love my club, and while we have 'old scores' being settled with other 'old foes', it's not as attractive when you strip away that loyalty to a newspaper audience compared to Wasps. Cruel, cold figures.

There is a similar predicament on BBC local radio.

Cov Rugby could be doing more. The Cov Tel could be doing more. BBC CWR could be doing more.

But we fans are the best way of spreading the gospel. Ticks in the 'win column' this time out will be a great way of spreading the gospel, producing performances that cannot be ignored.

We've come along way from the days of Coundon Road being a sell out, with 9,000 given out as the official figure, presumably as not to alarm the fire brigade of over-crowding. It's only a couple of seasons ago we were averaging 1,200 crowds.

So, we can moan and groan all we like. Times have changed. I started out in journalism on typewriters, smoking at my desk and getting drunk in the Town Wall Tavern (other hostelries were also patronised). It ain't like that anymore.

Nor do we have a team boasting internationals galore, supplying five players to the England side that beat New Zealand at Eden Park, or four and a half players (counting Fran Cotton when he was almost a Cov player) to win the first international sevens tournament, or winning the Knock Out Cup, topping the Sunday Telegraph Anglo-Welsh Merit Tables and joint top of the Sunday Telegraph English Merit Tables...all in one season.

We should be proud of our club, our players, the likes of Rowland and his coaching set up, and Jon Sharp and his management team. Things are getting better, season by season.

But from a cold headed, logical newspaper view - we ain't the Wasps and don't carry their clout.

Yet...

Mark



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 16/09/2019 20:58 by Diesel74.

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OldNick
15 September, 2019 20:13
And, far more to the point Mark, not being Wasps we donít have multiple full time people providing them with ready to use news every day of the week.

Looking at the pieces on our website, and seeing how similar they are to pieces on the CT site, and doing the same for Wasps pieces, it is very clear that journalists are not writing about either club. Bobby Bridge, however close he is to local rugby (and he canít imo be faulted on that score), is primarily filtering and tidying content received from the clubs, and Wasps are tooled up to provide him more content.


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