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Euro over and out
Discussion started by (IP Logged), 21 January, 2018 13:56
21 January, 2018 13:56
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21 January, 2018 18:33
Losses without bonus points in earlier games cost us and some poor referees decisions! We need to be more savvy and win our home games and target at least a losing bonus point away.
With two wins in out first two games we should have been hosed and dusted before the Glasgow game!

22 January, 2018 12:00
When the draw was announced, we were forecast by pundits to come 3rd or 4th in our pool, so arguably we have overachieved!

It's not just us; the performance of English teams generally has been poor. Sarries only scraped through, we and Wasps finished second but no cigar, Bath finished third, and Quins, Saints and Tigers all finished bottom. Four French, two Irish, one Welsh and one English teams in the quarters. No doubt there will be some sort of post mortem, but it does look as though English teams are getting left behind, despite the much vaunted quality of the Premiership. It can't just be a matter of money, otherwise Montpellier would have walked away with our pool, so what is the problem?

22 January, 2018 12:41
We were not clinical enough. We had the pressure in all but the Leinster home-game to win with bonus points but did not convert pressure & position into trys.
The knock-ons/ over throws etc is something Rob & the team need to look at. These are the basics, do we practice them enough?

Chief Little Big Horn
22 January, 2018 15:12
"To me this points to a psychological shortfall"
I think this was key to our exit.
In the 2 games where the focus was on the games 'we must win'
I feel the external pressures and expectations to get a result made us become weighed down pyschologically.
ie Leinster Home and Glasgow Away.

When we went to Leinster away the expectations and shackles of a result were lessene and we really went for it.

Nothing major to sort out but from these experiences in these pressure situations we will all learn.

Even the All Black used to choke in must win World Cup games!

22 January, 2018 15:48
I agree that this is a psychological / confidence / mindset issue.

Which means that it can be solved just like any other problem (ie. fitness, technical skills etc).

The pressure of the final game (“must get a BP win”), plus the return of in form Scotland internationals, even the plastic pitch (which I cringed at the way water sprayed around every time the players moved at any pace) would have been psychological elements which we perhaps didn’t deal with in as best a way as we could.

Ditto the two Leinster games.

I honestly think these are fixable problems and the guys will already be learning from the last game. Clearly disappointing but in the longer term this will make us stronger. IMHO.

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