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Bristol prospects?
Discussion started by FalconsRugby.org.uk , 05 October, 2016 22:45
Bristol prospects?
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Re: Bristol prospects?
Leipziger 06 October, 2016 08:20
"Trying to play at 98% when you have been used to being tested at 96% is actually a massive change."

That's what I thought when people talked about Bristol coming up and suddenly being really good and competitive - they have been used to only being really tested once every few weeks, if that. They could probably relax after 60 or even 40 minutes most weeks in the Championship. Now they need to be on it for 80 minutes every week and that's a big psychological change, not to mention a test of physical and mental fitness.


"In the short term perhaps we need to protect a promoted team from relegation in their first year."

I would go with that on two conditions:
1) if the promoted team finishes bottom, then the team that finishes 11th is relegated instead, rather than using it as an excuse to ringfence the league for a year.
2) that it isn't used as an excuse to continue to underfund the promoted team - they should get equal funding to the rest of the Premiership teams.

Re: Bristol prospects?
bulmer22 06 October, 2016 10:30
Same old thing again...
and again....
and again....
and again....
and again....
it has gone beyond boring.

Re: Bristol prospects?
Monkey1 06 October, 2016 12:09
Have you been smoking something funny Bulmer?

Re: Bristol prospects?
bulmer22 06 October, 2016 12:30
Just quoting some of your post from yesterday on the subject of Reality check. You made the same point about relegation and promotion a while back, and are just going over the same subject again on this thread. I don't think it's good to have a go at what others post, calling it boring, only then to repeat yourself, which I find boring.
This is after all an open forum and we don't have to follow your agenda. Just a thought ! and by the way I don't smoke.

Re: Bristol prospects?
Monkey1 06 October, 2016 12:54
So this is only the second time I have ever mentioned it, yet you feel moved to post that utterly childish comment.

Hmmm, maybe writing the above little story could be something to do with the fact that if I didn't get something written up last night the message board would have automatically closed down.

I am sure we all eagerly await the article that you will be writing to keep the site going. I expect it will be something entirely fresh, entirely new, and on a subject that you have never mentioned ever before, not even once.

Thank you for your positive contribution to the site, I am sure everyone appreciates it.

Re: Bristol prospects?
falconbear 06 October, 2016 16:29
Quote:
Monkey1
So this is only the second time I have ever mentioned it, yet you feel moved to post that utterly childish comment.
Hmmm, maybe writing the above little story could be something to do with the fact that if I didn't get something written up last night the message board would have automatically closed down.

I am sure we all eagerly await the article that you will be writing to keep the site going. I expect it will be something entirely fresh, entirely new, and on a subject that you have never mentioned ever before, not even once.

Thank you for your positive contribution to the site, I am sure everyone appreciates it.

Whats the crack with the site closing down Monkey? Are we obliged to contribute articles to prevent some type of winding up order?

Re: Bristol prospects?
Monkey1 06 October, 2016 20:31
The site needs a story such as this one every 2 weeks + a bit or the computer shuts down the message board. It is what keeps the hamster in the wheel.

Re: Bristol prospects?
falconbear 06 October, 2016 21:07
Crikey. Seems a bit harsh. They're always appreciated from me anyway

Re: Bristol prospects?
dick g 07 October, 2016 06:56
Keep going Monk. I appreciate your analysis and observations even if I do not always agree with them.

Re: Bristol prospects?
A tramp abroad 07 October, 2016 07:42
Seconded.

Re: Bristol prospects?
StokesCrofter 08 October, 2016 13:41
Brizz supporter here. I thought it was a good article, although the gulf seems more than 96% to 98%. The top teams don't make many mistakes, their pressure has been constant and our mistakes have too quickly dissipated any attacking threat.

I definitely think the championship needs some support especially when there is so much money in the English game.

Thanks for the article I enjoyed reading it.

Re: Bristol prospects?
Wensleydale Falcon 10 October, 2016 16:24
It's a good article Monkey on a very pertinent subject as the gulf between the Premiership and Championship continues to widen year by year.

The decision makers need to react to this for the good of rugby at ALL levels in this country before it's too late.

Whatever the pros and cons for ringfencing (and we all have differing views) but money talks and I personally see this as the last season for promotion/relegation.

The prem will be increased from the existing 12 to 14 which will include London Irish and Leeds/Otley/Ilkley/Yorkshire Carnegie from 2018/2019 season and we will lose one of the cup competitions.

Re: Bristol prospects?
bird lover 11 October, 2016 16:17
Leeds \ Otley \Ilkley\Carnegie, would never survive in Prem !!!!

Re: Bristol prospects?
pa8 11 October, 2016 16:23
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bird lover
Leeds \ Otley \Ilkley\Carnegie, would never survive in Prem !!!!

They'd have a good chance if, as described, relegation was done away with.

Re: Bristol prospects?
bird lover 11 October, 2016 16:34
Bottom of Prem down top of Championship go up.2\3\4 and bottom but one in Prem play off, sorted and fair.

Re: Bristol prospects?
CharlieDog 11 October, 2016 17:19
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bird lover
Bottom of Prem down top of Championship go up.2\3\4 and bottom but one in Prem play off, sorted and fair.

Not really......

Still would increase the season by 2-3 weeks and with the uncertainty would mean the 2/3/4 placed team would be unable to plan for promotion until well after everyone had signed up the best players.

Re: Bristol prospects?
Wensleydale Falcon 11 October, 2016 19:33
My concerns for Carnegie would be their fan base......granted ours isn't massive but we are now getting upwards of 6000k for most games with the odd 7/8k thrown in.

That's down to a combination of things mainly the massive amounts of hard work that Mick Hogan and his team have put in over the last 2/3 years and the improvements made around KP.

Carnegie would need a massive financial backer as they are struggling to get many more than 2k and there just doesn't appear to be the appetite for rugby union in Leeds.

I would love to see Carnegie in the Prem but I can't see them being sustainable.

Re: Bristol prospects?
Leipziger 11 October, 2016 21:01
Quote:
CharlieDog
Quote:
bird lover
Bottom of Prem down top of Championship go up.2\3\4 and bottom but one in Prem play off, sorted and fair.

Not really......

Still would increase the season by 2-3 weeks and with the uncertainty would mean the 2/3/4 placed team would be unable to plan for promotion until well after everyone had signed up the best players.

This thing about promoted teams not being anle to sign good players isn't true. We still managed to sign Mike Blair (Scotland's most capped scrum half) and Andy Saull (very highly regarded round the Prem at the time. Welsh even signed Weepu and Barkley, granted they didn't really perform but they were very talented players. Bristol have, on paper, a very talented squad.

You could also say teams can't plan for next season if relegation is settled late yet we re-signed Gopperth during the season we went down and signed Rory Lawson in the summer.

Promotion and relegation isn't so much the problem as clubs, DORs and MDs using it as an excuse for their own limitations and lack of ambition.

Re: Bristol prospects?
bird lover 12 October, 2016 08:22
Leeds first game of season attracted 1200 ish people the Yorkshire brand is not working,the investment into the Brand is also not going to work. Anyone in Doncaster or Rotherham say with money to invest in rugby Union would not invest in Leeds that would go down like a lead ballon in their respective areas!!! We in the North do need another Premiership team but I am sure it will not be Leeds on many grounds.we need to sustain our position first as our own job has a long way to go.Not sure we have the right Rugby people in place to take us forward.

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