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Falcons V Tigers
Discussion started by Falcons_Thunder , 23 October, 2017 12:08
Falcons V Tigers
Falcons_Thunder 23 October, 2017 12:08
Team for Leicester Tigers

After a great start to the season in all competitions, we now turn our focus back to the AP and with the visit of Leicester Tigers. Below is the team I would pick for a game we must win up front, and it will be a big test for our boys but unlike years gone bye I believe at home on our hallowed KP turf we shouldn't be frightened of no team. And I expect the Tigers to come with their strongest 23 possible.

1 Bobby Vickers
2 Kyle Cooper
3 Jon Welsh
4 Calum Green
5 Will Witty
6 Mark Wilson
7 Will Welch
8 Ryan Burrows

9 Tane Takulua
10 Toby Flood
11 DTH Van Der Merwe
12 Juan Pablo Socino
13 Maxime Mermoz
14 Niki Goneva
15 Alex Tait

Replacements
Santiago Socino
Sami Mavinga
Scott Wilson
Evan Olmstead
Opeti Fonua
Michael Young
Josh Matavesi
Sinoti Sinoti



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 23/10/2017 12:14 by Falcons_Thunder.

Re: Falcons V Tigers
GeordieFalcon 23 October, 2017 14:01
I think Gary Graham is worthy of consideration after his excellent performances the last two weekends.

Is Fonua match fit. He's playing his first game for the A's tonight..so would he be risked v Tigers?

Re: Falcons V Tigers
markismith50 23 October, 2017 14:07
Unfortunately Gary injured his foot in France so will be out for a wee while.

Re: Falcons V Tigers
GeordieFalcon 23 October, 2017 14:12
That's a shame Smithy, he's played very well! Hope its not too serious

Re: Falcons V Tigers
Wensleydale Falcon 23 October, 2017 14:12
The guys are throwing up some real selection headaches.

Just how it should be,unlike days gone by where it was pretty straightforward to pick a match day 23.

I will be honest and say i don,t think we have a best 23 anymore as everyone in the squad now comes in and does a job. The strength in depth is a joy to behold (proven once again with the superb away win in Bordeaux at the weekend) there is some serious competition for places these days!

I believe that we have and will see a lot of "horses for courses" selections this season.

Happy days.....

Re: Falcons V Tigers
AFalcon24 23 October, 2017 15:44
Will certainly be interesting who we select. smiling smiley

Re: Falcons V Tigers
falconbear 23 October, 2017 16:55
Quote:
Falcons_Thunder
Team for Leicester Tigers
After a great start to the season in all competitions, we now turn our focus back to the AP and with the visit of Leicester Tigers. Below is the team I would pick for a game we must win up front, and it will be a big test for our boys but unlike years gone bye I believe at home on our hallowed KP turf we shouldn't be frightened of no team. And I expect the Tigers to come with their strongest 23 possible.

1 Bobby Vickers
2 Kyle Cooper
3 Jon Welsh
4 Calum Green
5 Will Witty
6 Mark Wilson
7 Will Welch
8 Ryan Burrows
9 Tane Takulua
10 Toby Flood
11 DTH Van Der Merwe
12 Juan Pablo Socino
13 Maxime Mermoz
14 Niki Goneva
15 Alex Tait

Replacements
Santiago Socino
Sami Mavinga
Scott Wilson
Evan Olmstead
Opeti Fonua
Michael Young
Josh Matavesi
Sinoti Sinoti

If fit i think Nili Latu deserves his place in the 23. He’s warrior-like of late. Also i think we’d need a replacement Fly Half.
Is Juan Pablo available after his ban?

Re: Falcons V Tigers
Kingkiko2 23 October, 2017 16:57
Tait, Sinoti, Harris, Socino, Goneva, Flood, Takalua, Latu, Welch, Wilson, Witty, Green, Welsh, Cooper, Vickers. Bench: Mavinga, Socino, Wilson, Robinson, Burrows, Young, Mermoz, Willis. Strong team and still quality not in that selection eg Olmstead, VDW, Wilson Fonua, Matavesi etc that’s the depth now! What will be really interesting is in Autumn when our players get over looked, the majority of that team will still be here 👊

Re: Falcons V Tigers
tigerburnie 23 October, 2017 17:46
For a change it's not our pack you need to fear, we are scoring tries for fun, just depends if Toomua is fit, otherwise I would expect most of last weekends 23.

Re: Falcons V Tigers
Falcons_Thunder 24 October, 2017 07:18
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tigerburnie
For a change it's not our pack you need to fear, we are scoring tries for fun, just depends if Toomua is fit, otherwise I would expect most of last weekends 23.

The Falcons have scored more points in the premiership then the Tigers and have got 4 TBP where the Tigers have got 0TBP.

Re: Falcons V Tigers
falconbear 24 October, 2017 08:04
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Falcons_Thunder
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tigerburnie
For a change it's not our pack you need to fear, we are scoring tries for fun, just depends if Toomua is fit, otherwise I would expect most of last weekends 23.

The Falcons have scored more points in the premiership then the Tigers and have got 4 TBP where the Tigers have got 0TBP.

True, but we have had an easier start to the Prem. Wuss and Irish at home. There’s no doubting Leicesters and Newcastles try scoring assets but at Kingston Park this could be quite an evenly matched game.

Re: Falcons V Tigers
Falcons_Thunder 24 October, 2017 09:10
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falconbear
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Falcons_Thunder
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tigerburnie
For a change it's not our pack you need to fear, we are scoring tries for fun, just depends if Toomua is fit, otherwise I would expect most of last weekends 23.

The Falcons have scored more points in the premiership then the Tigers and have got 4 TBP where the Tigers have got 0TBP.

True, but we have had an easier start to the Prem. Wuss and Irish at home. There’s no doubting Leicesters and Newcastles try scoring assets but at Kingston Park this could be quite an evenly matched game.


We've had both sarries and Exeter so far

Round 1
Leicester 23-27 Bath
Falcons 35-8 Warriors TBP

Round 2
Northampton 25-11 Leicester
Sale 12-13 Falcons

Round 3
Leicester 24-10 Gloucester
Falcons 7-29 Sarries

Round 4
Harlequin 28-31 Leicester 31
Bath 32-33 Falcons TBP

Round 5
Tigers 20-13 Exeter
Falcons 29- London Irish 17 TBP

Round 6
London Irish 27-28 Leicester
Exeter 34-24 Falcons TBP

Re: Falcons V Tigers
Monkey1 24 October, 2017 09:17
If you say that Tiggers v Irish & Glos is comparable to our games against Wuss & Sale, the others are comparable too, so on the whole I would fancy us at KP more than Tiggers in terms of scoring tries.

My apologies for giving the game the kiss of death.

Re: Falcons V Tigers
alas 24 October, 2017 09:23
Leicester have been scoring three tries in a lot of games. Missing out on bonus points might cost them at the end of the season, but wins are the most important thing. Sunday's game between two improving teams ought the be a cracker, but you never know.

Re: Falcons V Tigers
lizard118 24 October, 2017 09:59
We're the home team, and on that basis I'd expect us to dictate plays with Flood and Matavese pinning them back in their half.
Considering we've gone toe to toe with Exeter, Sarries and beaten Bath at the Rec I expect us to be slight favourites for this game.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 24/10/2017 10:03 by lizard118.

Re: Falcons V Tigers
alas 24 October, 2017 10:07
I doubt Matavesi will be playing ahead of Socino. Unless conditions are poor the Falcons should mainly be running the ball. If they do kick for territory better to find touch rather than punting the ball to the Tigers's dangerous back three.

Re: Falcons V Tigers
upwardonward 24 October, 2017 11:23
Think Falcons Thunder is pretty spot on!
Should be a cracking game.

Re: Falcons V Tigers
tigerburnie 24 October, 2017 15:56
Wayne Barnes is "sir", we like him.

Re: Falcons V Tigers
pityacker 24 October, 2017 16:18
We like him too !!

Re: Falcons V Tigers
alas 24 October, 2017 16:53
Barnes certainly wouldn't bottle awarding a last minute penalty which happened in last year's fixture.

Re: Falcons V Tigers
Yorksfalcon 24 October, 2017 16:58
Was that JP by any chance?

Re: Falcons V Tigers
Monkey1 24 October, 2017 18:12
Barnes usually gets the tough games so I wonder what the powers that be at Twickenham expect to kick off on Sunday? Do they know something that we don't?

Re: Falcons V Tigers
markismith50 24 October, 2017 19:08
He did the Australia game last weekend so potentially an extra day to get over the jet lag?

Re: Falcons V Tigers
Falcons_Thunder 25 October, 2017 06:13
Best ref in England by a mile in my humble opinion, it's gonna be interesting with a few ex players in both teams.

Re: Falcons V Tigers
Bedlington Lad 25 October, 2017 06:50
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Yorksfalcon
Was that JP by any chance?
Yes twice bottled it

Re: Falcons V Tigers
NorfolkFalcon 25 October, 2017 11:32
Lots of intriguing selection dilemmas:


Who will play at fly half? Will Toby Flood make his first start in the Premiership or will young Craig Willis be given another start?

Who will play at number eight? Ryan Burrows done enough to earn his first appearance in the Premiership or will the ever reliable Nili Latu? Could Fonua be given a surprise recall onto the bench after playing for the 2nd team on Monday?

Who will play at centres? Will the successful Juan Pablo Socino and Chris Harris partnership continue or could Josh Matavesi/Maxime Mermoz come into the side?

Gutted I won't be able to make the trip to the game.

Re: Falcons V Tigers
Bedlington Lad 25 October, 2017 11:52
I wouldn't change the current half back or centre pairings - I like the idea of Nili Latu coming on as an impact sub (I think)

Re: Falcons V Tigers
Falcons_Thunder 25 October, 2017 12:07
I can't see flood not starting with the games he had last week, plus his game management is far superior than are other FH but that came with experience plus 60england caps

Re: Falcons V Tigers
alas 25 October, 2017 12:40
Latu has been getting back to the form of two seasons ago. I think he'll start. The bulk of the team picks itself. Fairly close choice at 2, 5, 13. Maybe 15 as well if the Hammer is fit.

Re: Falcons V Tigers
Stopsy 25 October, 2017 13:00
Toomua out for us sad smiley

Re: Falcons V Tigers
aidanb 25 October, 2017 15:40
The Chopper has to start at 2

then they can bring on Cooper or Lawson

Re: Falcons V Tigers
davietoon 25 October, 2017 17:32
So no Toomua phew!! Had a superb game v Castres and no J P Doyle things can only get better!!!

Re: Falcons V Tigers
Falcons_Thunder 26 October, 2017 11:06
Seen this on the Tigers forum great bit of respect for us from some of the Tigers fans

"Winning away at Kingston Park would, for me, rate more highly than beating Chiefs at home".

Re: Falcons V Tigers
GeordieFalcon 26 October, 2017 11:25
Interesting decisions indeed.

Burrows to me looked average v Newport, but the reports suggest he was huge v Bordeaux. Maybe he just needed warming up. If that's the case, then he starts for me...he is one huge lump of a guy. And I enjoyed watching how he captained the young kids around him v Newport. Especially Radwan, telling him where to stand etc.

How did Fonua go in his run out?

Matavesi was apparently excellent against Bordeaux aswell. His and Floods tactical kicking were supposedly top drawer and was one of the main reasons for our victory.

Re: Falcons V Tigers
NorfolkFalcon 26 October, 2017 11:34
Sinoti was the pick of the players in the A league game apparently. I'm sure he will get game time soon with Goneva and DTH on international duty.

Chopper to start and Cooper on the bench would be fantastic.

Re: Falcons V Tigers
Falcons_Thunder 27 October, 2017 10:31
Newcastle Falcons team to face Leicester Tigers (Sunday, 3pm, Kingston Park Stadium)

15 Alex Tait

14 Vereniki Goneva

13 Chris Harris

12 Juan Pablo Socino

11 Sinoti Sinoti

10 Toby Flood

9 Sonatane Takulua

1 Rob Vickers

2 Kyle Cooper

3 Jon Welsh

4 Calum Green

5 Sean Robinson

6 Mark Wilson

7 Will Welch (captain)

8 Nili Latu

Replacements

16 Scott Lawson

17 Sami Mavinga

18 Trevor Davison

19 Will Witty

20 Ally Hogg

21 Michael Young

22 Joel Hodgson

23 Maxime Mermoz

Re: Falcons V Tigers
GeordieFalcon 27 October, 2017 10:41
That backline just looks a dream!!!

Re: Falcons V Tigers
Bedlington Lad 27 October, 2017 10:43
Is Willis injured ? I am very surprised he's not even on the bench

Re: Falcons V Tigers
Ayerzawannabe 27 October, 2017 10:46
Leicester Tigers (v Newcastle Falcons, away, Sunday 3.00pm)

15 Telusa Veainu

14 Nick Malouf

13 Matt Smith

12 Mathew Tait

11 Jonny May

10 George Ford

9 Ben Youngs

1 Ellis Genge

2 Tom Youngs (c)

3 Dan Cole

4 Dom Barrow

5 Graham Kitchener

6 Valentino Mapapalangi

7 Brendon O’Connor

8 Sione Kalamafoni



Replacements

16 Harry Thacker

17 Greg Bateman

18 Pat Cilliers

19 Harry Wells

20 Luke Hamilton

21 Sam Harrison

22 Joe Ford

23 Adam Thompstone

Re: Falcons V Tigers
alas 27 October, 2017 10:46
I like the starting XV. Robinson in to attack the Tigers' line-out and Witty looked a bit jaded against the Dragons. Are Willis and Socino jnr fit? If so, unlucky to miss out on the bench.

Re: Falcons V Tigers
AFalcon24 27 October, 2017 10:47
Love the look of that backline for us. smiling smiley

Re: Falcons V Tigers
alas 27 October, 2017 10:49
Going to be a bit of headbanging between the two number 8s.

Re: Falcons V Tigers
FFL 27 October, 2017 10:53
We've been dreaming of a backline like that for years!! Can't wait for Sunday in front of a packed out KP

Re: Falcons V Tigers
Falcons_Thunder 27 October, 2017 11:03
Great backline more of a running/power game with sinoti and goneva which I think we will need. Is it Sunday yet lol

Re: Falcons V Tigers
Cumbrian_falcon 27 October, 2017 11:12
On the team I would have liked to have seen DTH and Mermoz start but we don’t know about injuries?

The key battles for me are at set piece time. We need Welsh to come up big and do well against Genge. Green will need to be competitive at the line out and hopefully steel a few from Tigers.

The backline is mesmerising when you think of the players not in there likes of Matavesi. We could onl have dreamed of that a few seasons ago.

This is going to be a solid scrappy game and I believe Tigers will want to keep it tight with the forwards.

If both sides come to play running rugby with our backline and there’s the 9,10 of Youngs and Ford will be a big weapon. Latu needs to attack the channel and hope we get some joy from the breakdown.

Really looking forward to the game now the atmosphere should be electric.

This game is our toughest test so far in my opinion and should show how far we’ve come as a team. Are we a decent side with top 6 aspirations or have we got a squad capable of shocking the media and critics and challenging for Top 4 and honours this season.

We will know by 5pm Sunday.

Re: Falcons V Tigers
aidanb 27 October, 2017 11:14
Look at that front five match up

Rob Vickers, Kyle Cooper, Jon Welsh
v
Ellis Genge, Tom Youngs (c), Dan Cole



Calum Green, Sean Robinson
v
Dom Barrow, Graham Kitchener



that is gonna be some tight five tussle to gain the ascendency to allow the quicker forwards to play and the backs to drop the ball

Re: Falcons V Tigers
Monkey1 27 October, 2017 11:18
Weather forecast is good for running rugby.

Can't make up my mind if I am more excited about that excellent looking team taking on a strong Tigers side, or about the atmosphere of a sold out KP.

Bring on Sunday.
(Sm60)

Re: Falcons V Tigers
Falc Dancer 27 October, 2017 11:19
Our team looks solid
We can’t find a space for DTH or Matavesi in there
We are going to need a big performance to beat Leicester but we can do it

Re: Falcons V Tigers
Falcons_Thunder 27 October, 2017 11:21
Tigers have a few hot heads in the starting 5 genge and Barrow, we have the superior lineout by far and Kyle Cooper should tighten our scrum

Re: Falcons V Tigers
NorfolkFalcon 27 October, 2017 11:23
Sinoti x2 man of the match, calling it right now. He was showing glimpses of being back to his best during pre-season but due to injury he hasn't had a chance in the Premiership until now.

Looks like it'll be a cracking game between 2 in form sides.

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