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RESULT:Friday 13th March Newcastle Falcons 41 v 0 Bedford Blues League Championship


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Re: Newcastle Falcons v Cornish Pirates 16 FEB - Teams Up
ed.up.north 17 February, 2020 16:30
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Mainly instagram but Ed said he saw something on Facebook. The stuff on instagram seems absolute concrete

Now seeing on Twitter that he’s being linked to Toulon to replace Rhys Webb but again, doesn’t tally with his contract status so hopefully just nonsense. If the club is releasing him early it would be an astonishing decision.

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Cornish Pirates 16 FEB - Teams Up
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Re: Newcastle Falcons v Cornish Pirates 16 FEB - Teams Up
Falc Dancer 17 February, 2020 17:21
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http://www.rctoulon.com/joueur/tane-takulua/

Well that looks concrete enough to me
In the same week as the club expect people to part with their money for season tickets
Another high earning top player off the books

Annoyed doesn’t cover how I am feeling right now

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Cornish Pirates 16 FEB - Teams Up
Siders 17 February, 2020 17:54
Yes looks like a done deal.

I wouldn’t rush to blame the club without the full facts. As much as it could be wage related it might well also be driven by Tane himself, e.g by family circumstances. We’re a rugby club, and I think Tane has given enough to be given some flexibility.

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Cornish Pirates 16 FEB - Teams Up
Falc Dancer 17 February, 2020 18:11
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Yes looks like a done deal.
I wouldn’t rush to blame the club without the full facts. As much as it could be wage related it might well also be driven by Tane himself, e.g by family circumstances. We’re a rugby club, and I think Tane has given enough to be given some flexibility.

I will wait for an official club announcement but as it appears to be Toulon that he’s leaving for who have released Rhys Webb, the club will have been approached to release him
If Tane wanted to go then the club holding him back wouldn’t benefit anyone
Having to use Joel as scrum half cover yesterday tells me that we have issues at 9 and losing Tane weakens us more.
The club have shed a lot of wages this season (Penny, Cooper, Matavesi, Takalua on top of Goneva, Hammersley, Harris, Wilson out on loan) and an idea of what the clubs aims are for next season would be most welcome

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Cornish Pirates 16 FEB - Teams Up
Exiled Falcon 17 February, 2020 18:19
The guy has stayed to help us get back up. If he moves on (is it confirmed?) he’s done his bit to help our promotion. Good luck to him.

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Cornish Pirates 16 FEB - Teams Up
Siders 17 February, 2020 18:20
I agree with that.

It’s all speculation, but I’d have thought the French wages and the south of France lifestyle might be a real pull for someone at Tane’s stage of his career.

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Cornish Pirates 16 FEB - Teams Up
Siders 17 February, 2020 18:22
The challenge we face though is the incoming signings (if there are any) are surely only going to want to go public once our promotion is mathematically confirmed.

At a guess- I think that’d be close to happening on the day of ‘the big one’

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Cornish Pirates 16 FEB - Teams Up
lizard118 17 February, 2020 18:24
Wouldn't begrudge him the move. He's been a good servant. He was good the season before last but appeared suffer from a drop of form last season. He's 29 years now and I think we've had the best years out of him.

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Cornish Pirates 16 FEB - Teams Up
Exiled Falcon 17 February, 2020 18:28
Hey Siders, the South of France lifestyle would have suited me at any stage of my career!!

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Cornish Pirates 16 FEB - Teams Up
ed.up.north 17 February, 2020 18:33
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Wouldn't begrudge him the move. He's been a good servant. He was good the season before last but appeared suffer from a drop of form last season. He's 29 years now and I think we've had the best years out of him.

I absolutely agree with you about his contribution to the club, but my concern is about who is there to take his place. Micky Young is 31 now and although I think he's looked a lot sharper this season than last, we can't pretend he's our long-term future due to his age. Sam Stuart has disappeared this season (injured perhaps?) and then behind him I presume is Cameron Nordli-Kelemeti who I believe picked up an injury in the Melrose game, but who hasn't had anything like enough senior squad exposure to throw him into Premiership action, assuming we go up.

I always assumed you sign a contract with a player so that you know how long they will be with you for, *and* so that you can plan your succession accordingly.

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Cornish Pirates 16 FEB - Teams Up
Wensleydale Falcon 17 February, 2020 18:37
We will get an idea of the direction that the club intends to go in next season (once promotion is confirmed, hopefully) as there’s still a lot more points needed to get there just yet !!

Once again posters jumping to assumptions and conclusions doesn’t benefit anyone. When the times right we will find out, as we always do.

Players come and go every season at pretty much every club for a wide variety of reasons. We will also have a churn of players I’m sure, but again, as always I put my trust in Semore and the management team to get us where we need to be.

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Cornish Pirates 16 FEB - Teams Up
Siders 17 February, 2020 18:38
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I absolutely agree with you about his contribution to the club, but my concern is about who is there to take his place. Micky Young is 31 now and although I think he's looked a lot sharper this season than last, we can't pretend he's our long-term future due to his age. Sam Stuart has disappeared this season (injured perhaps?) and then behind him I presume is Cameron Nordli-Kelemeti who I believe picked up an injury in the Melrose game, but who hasn't had anything like enough senior squad exposure to throw him into Premiership action, assuming we go up.

I always assumed you sign a contract with a player so that you know how long they will be with you for, *and* so that you can plan your succession accordingly.

Take your point, but things change all the time. 3 years into a 4 year contract is a fair bit different to if he had wanted out after 1 year, and as others have said, is possible he had a relegation clause in that wasn’t exercised.

Your broader point about backup is reasonable though- we definitely need a new scrum half. Challenge is, there aren’t masses around (which is probably why Toulon have gone for Tane as Webb’s replacement).

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Cornish Pirates 16 FEB - Teams Up
Barry555 17 February, 2020 18:56
If this is true and it’s an IF then all I’d like to say is a big thanks to Tane. Given his all in a falcons shirt and has been a standout over the years. Can’t begrudge a loyal servant of the club the chance to earn big money with the French lifestyle of Toulon!

Definitely would require a replacement but as been mentioned anyone out there who matches his quality and ability available right now? Probs best waiting till end of the season. Not like we need a international scrum half right now is it?

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Cornish Pirates 16 FEB - Teams Up
telfs123 17 February, 2020 19:27
This possibly adds more credence to the Ben Spencer rumours. Would be very sad to see Tane go, hopefully if going as a medical joker to Toulon it could be a loan until end of the season?

If Tane is off, would hope to see some more of N-K or Pascoe over the rest of the season

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Cornish Pirates 16 FEB - Teams Up
GeordieFalcon 17 February, 2020 19:32
A good chance to look at Pascoe amd Kelemteti

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Cornish Pirates 16 FEB - Teams Up
Barry555 17 February, 2020 19:39
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This possibly adds more credence to the Ben Spencer rumours. Would be very sad to see Tane go, hopefully if going as a medical joker to Toulon it could be a loan until end of the season?
If Tane is off, would hope to see some more of N-K or Pascoe over the rest of the season

First I’ve heard of this one! As Smithy says got to take things with a pinch of salt. But certainly wouldn’t mind Ben Spencer heading north!

Would like to see more of N-K and Pascoe If they are ready. Rather give those lads a shot then have Hodgson cover at 9.

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Cornish Pirates 16 FEB - Teams Up
NorfolkFalcon 17 February, 2020 20:04
I’d be absolutely gutted if Tane leaves as he is my current favourite Falcon, however if the opportunity to go to Toulon arose I certainly wouldn’t begrudge him the move. He would go with my best wishes.

Back to the game, I’ll eat some humble pie on Arscott. He had a great game, reliable under the high ball and largely made good decision running the ball back.

I thought Callum Chick had one of his best games in a long time. Peterson and Daniels look like good signings, it was great to see a dominant scrum.

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Cornish Pirates 16 FEB - Teams Up
Falc Dancer 17 February, 2020 20:05
Tane leaving the club for Toulon I can handle
I wouldn’t want to deny any player a chance to move to a club like Toulon
Losing a quality player mid season is my issue, and chances are he won’t be replaced until the end of the season
I want the best team possible on the pitch making sure we gain promotion. Tane in my opinion is our best scrum half

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Cornish Pirates 16 FEB - Teams Up
Barry555 17 February, 2020 20:15
Agree Chick had a great game. Forgot about Daniels! Very much under the radar and yes been very solid and goes well around the park.

I’d rather save ourselves for end of season market then rashly recruit someone immediately...... losing someone like Tane you want a like for like replacement or someone better and if that means waiting then so be it. We’ve got way too much firepower for teams in this league we will be fine.

And anyway Tane is still a Falcons player until it’s been announced otherwise. So I expect him to be included in the games to come.

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Cornish Pirates 16 FEB - Teams Up
matt1il 17 February, 2020 21:10
Tbf he's been the 2nd choice for a Championship club for much of this season (including Sat before Micky pulled out), so no one can blame him. Hopefully he stays until end of season.

This must give someone the opportunity of stepping up into the 2nd choice (or even ousting Micky).

It's a worry if he leaves immediately as suggested looking at Logo's post on Insta, as if Micky is injured we're suddenly down to very little experience in an important role.

And I think Hodgson was 24th man on Sat, so not set up as the replacement 9 but did the job as Micky pulled out late on, happy to be corrected here tho.

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Cornish Pirates 16 FEB - Teams Up
Wensleydale Falcon 17 February, 2020 21:24
Not so sure he’s been our 2nd choice.

I would say that his game time has been managed after he played in the World Cup. He had a period of time where he had played an enormous amount of rugby without a significant break.

There’s a fundamental difference.

He’s been a great servant to the club and if all these rumours are true I Like many others will be extremely disappointed but can only wish him and his family well.

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Cornish Pirates 16 FEB - Teams Up
ed.up.north 17 February, 2020 21:28
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Tbf he's been the 2nd choice for a Championship club for much of this season (including Sat before Micky pulled out), so no one can blame him. Hopefully he stays until end of season.
This must give someone the opportunity of stepping up into the 2nd choice (or even ousting Micky).

It's a worry if he leaves immediately as suggested looking at Logo's post on Insta, as if Micky is injured we're suddenly down to very little experience in an important role.

And I think Hodgson was 24th man on Sat, so not set up as the replacement 9 but did the job as Micky pulled out late on, happy to be corrected here tho.

I think you’re correct on Hodgson but let’s face it, it was luck that it was 21 he had to cover has he does actually play scrum half. He wouldn’t have been much use if a lock had gone down before the game!

I hope he stays too but if the Toulon rumour is correct, and he is going to cover for Webb, then you’d assume he’d be going straight away since Webb has already been canned.

I think it’s a desperate shame if we are losing him. I haven’t noticed a drop in form, I think he’s one of the very best in our squad, consistently excellent and I had always assumed he’d be one of the core members of our squad next season when we will have a big job to do.

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Cornish Pirates 16 FEB - Teams Up
matt1il 17 February, 2020 21:36
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Not so sure he’s been our 2nd choice.

Just to be clear he'd be a long way my 1st choice.

But look at the last 2 seasons and Deano has started more with Micky.

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Cornish Pirates 16 FEB - Teams Up
GeordieFalcon 17 February, 2020 21:54
Dont forget..Dean brought him in..so IF this is true then im sure its been on the cards for a while and Dean will try to find a suitable replacement.

Maybe another fairly under the radar signing ,like Tane himself was ....

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Cornish Pirates 16 FEB - Teams Up
GeordieFalcon 17 February, 2020 22:02
Anyway...can i just ask what was impressive about Peterson on Sunday. Was he the huge physical lock we hoped he might be? Or was it something else?

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Cornish Pirates 16 FEB - Teams Up
ed.up.north 17 February, 2020 22:20
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Anyway...can i just ask what was impressive about Peterson on Sunday. Was he the huge physical lock we hoped he might be? Or was it something else?

He did some very impressive jackalling work. I saw at least three turnovers on the floor at his hands. He was good in the air, some very good carries. He comes across as a very athletic all-rounder, really delighted that he’s in the squad tbh.

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Cornish Pirates 16 FEB - Teams Up
aidanb 18 February, 2020 08:19
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Anyway...can i just ask what was impressive about Peterson on Sunday. Was he the huge physical lock we hoped he might be? Or was it something else?

his lineout work was excellent and up there with the work Green did in the lineout.

for me though though he was as good as Robinson around the park with his carrying, driving, tackling and support play.

Robinson and Peterson are looking like the best combo we have had for a while. I was never ever sure of the Witty/Green, Green/Robinson combo's as I always felt there was a lack of all round play from our locks.

These two seem to be providing that at the moment, making our pack a much better all round force.

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Cornish Pirates 16 FEB - Teams Up
GeordieFalcon 18 February, 2020 10:08
Well that is good to hear.

We know how good Robinson is...be interesting to follow Petersons progression.

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Cornish Pirates 16 FEB - Teams Up
mannin 18 February, 2020 14:11
Can't begrudge a player a move to Toulon at his stage of career, or be upset at the club if they've agreed to it. Sure it'll benefit both parties somehow.

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Cornish Pirates 16 FEB - Teams Up
GeordieFalcon 18 February, 2020 14:15
Well Michel Young is joint Captain and Sam Stuart has been ok.

It would be nice to see pascoe or Kelemeti (if hes fit again) getting a few minutes

Re: Newcastle Falcons v Cornish Pirates 16 FEB - Teams Up
Rogerandout 18 February, 2020 14:58
Good game, watched it back on tv as well.
Forwards performance of the season and the backs handling running and decoy lines was good.
Takulua is a very good player but if he leaves he will be replaced either from the academy or a signing. I am becoming keener on the young players coming in as the season progresses. We hadn’t really seen Connon til recently and he has been good.
Give the lads a go in their natural positions with some experienced pros around them and see how they go.

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