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Team v Sale
Discussion started by Matt82 , 04 October, 2019 12:44
Team v Sale
Matt82 04 October, 2019 12:44
Listening to Costelloes comments last week I'm surprised we haven't gone with a stringer side. I'm really disappointed Sirker isn't involved. I'm not sure how his performance in that Sarries game deserved being banished from the 23. Think it could be a long day at the office tomorrow looking at the backline Sale have.

Re: Team v Sale
Snewbs 04 October, 2019 12:51
He’s out on loan I think. Trying to get the experience of 15s that he’s potentially a little behind the others with because of his time with the 7s setup. I doubt anyone thinks he can’t make it, but he might be even better with some low pressure exposure.

Re: Team v Sale
Matt82 04 October, 2019 13:39
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Snewbs
He’s out on loan I think. Trying to get the experience of 15s that he’s potentially a little behind the others with because of his time with the 7s setup. I doubt anyone thinks he can’t make it, but he might be even better with some low pressure exposure.

I get that but why start him then v Sarries. Looking at all of our wingers so far he's out performed them all. Just seems bizarre.

Re: Team v Sale
greenwood 04 October, 2019 14:01
What is the Team?

Re: Team v Sale
RossM 04 October, 2019 16:47
You'll find full details on OnceaWasp.

Re: Team v Sale
neils 04 October, 2019 17:25
15 Rob Miller (104)

14 Zach Kibirige (1)

13 Juan de Jongh (49)

12 Michael Le Bourgeois (16)

11 Paolo Odogwu (1)

10 Jacob Umaga (9)

9 Sam Wolstenholme (2)

1 Ben Harris (45)

2 Tommy Taylor (49)

3 Jeff Toomaga-Allen (1)

4 Thibaud Flament (2)

5 Charlie Matthews (15)

6 Ashley Johnson (c) (188)

7 Jack Willis (37)

8 Nizaam Carr (38)

Replacements

16 Gabriel Oghre (8)

17 Tom West (13)

18 Kieran Brookes (19)

19 Theo Vukasinovic (0)

20 Sione Vailanu (2)

21 Henry Clement (2)

22 Billy Searle (13)

23 Ross Neal (12)

Centre Juan de Jongh and hooker Tommy Taylor are named in the starting line-up against Sale Sharks to make their 50th Wasps appearances in Round 3 of the Premiership Rugby Cup this Saturday at the AJ Bell Stadium (kick-off 3pm).

Taylor returns to the front row while De Jongh is set for his first appearance of the season, as Wasps go in search of back-to-back wins following last weekend’s 36-32 triumph at Northampton Saints.

All Black Jeff Toomaga-Allen is handed a first start for the Club in the front-row next to Taylor and loosehead Ben Harris while Academy forward Thibaud Flament is given the nod in the second-row next to Charlie Matthews.

Ashley Johnson will captain the side from the back-row for his 189th Wasps appearance, alongside Nizaam Carr and Jack Willis – the latter who makes his first start since March.

Springbok De Jongh partners Michael Le Bourgeois in the centres while Sam Wolstenholme and Jacob Umaga start again in the half-back combination.

Full-back Rob Miller is joined by summer signings Zach Kibirige and Paolo Odogwu on the wings – with the latter taking on his former employers, as Wasps look to add to their tally of ten tries in two matches.

Summer signing Theo Vukasinovic is in line for his Wasps debut from the bench while Billy Searle returns to the squad since his freak injury against Bristol Bears back in February.

Wasps Forwards Coach Andy Titterrell said: “We’ll take a lot of confidence out of Saturday’s win at Saints. Certain areas went really well for us and were a lot better than the week before.

“We have to box clever at Sale but ultimately you have to be prepared to meet fire with fire and when we’ve been up there before we’ve confronted them and we’ve not gone into our shells.

“My message to the forwards will be let’s have more of what we did in the second-half v Saints and get that for an 80-minute showing. At the end of the day, if we get our detail right, if we get our knowledge right, and if we bring the emotional side of the game, then we could have a good afternoon up there.”

Re: Team v Sale
backdoc 04 October, 2019 20:47
50 caps for Taylor and De Jongh

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Two great players who give everything each time they play.

Re: Team v Sale
Buzzboy 05 October, 2019 16:18
Wining away at Sale.....?! Shhhh.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/10/2019 21:43 by Buzzboy.

Re: Team v Sale
Buzzboy 05 October, 2019 16:37
Spoke too soon.

Re: Team v Sale
Heathen 05 October, 2019 17:15
Disappointing after leading at HT. Would like to hear the views of any that went to the game.

Re: Team v Sale
Aylesbury Wasp 05 October, 2019 17:59
I wasn’t there but listened on BBC Sports and the commentator said we looked weaker after several substitutions and that perhaps Dai viewed trying out new combinations and giving people game time as more important than the result. I am not saying that is true or valid but that was their opinion.

Re: Team v Sale
ElthamWasp 05 October, 2019 22:26
Bit dozy to start with. Gave a stupid penalty away, Sale kicked to corner, catch and drive, good initial work to halt drive but Sale dug in and scored from 2nd phase of drive. Just what you would expect of Sale. Slowly got back to parity, played some good phases and were sharp on the break. Went in at half time with a deserved lead.

2nd half a different story. Could barely get out of our own 22 at times. Scrum was a mess. Could not look after the ball. Could not build any phases, losing the collision battles. Solomona is a class finisher who does not need a 2nd invitation to score. Subs seem to disrupt flow of play rather than add momentum. Searle showed some nice touches when he got the ball. Couple of decent phases towards the end but too little too late.

Re: Team v Sale
Neverwas 06 October, 2019 08:32
Some positives yesterday, line speed in defence was much improved, work at breakdown was good & lineout went well overall

Re: Team v Sale
Neverwas 06 October, 2019 08:43
Negatives were new kiwi Tight head cannot scrummage- hope Dai can work some magic on him. Halfbacks overall did Ok, & i think they will only get better with game time (occasionally caught in 2 minds & cannot afford a lost second in ball delivery or decision at this level). Searle showed what a quality player he is- putting team in good positions with boot & eager in the tackling duties. Brookes showed he is clearly our No 1 tight head & once on the field our scrum had more than parity - loosehead Harris, an unsung player, must have been relieved when Allen was replaced.

Re: Team v Sale
Neverwas 06 October, 2019 08:53
Charlie Matthews making a good claim for starting, runs line out well & grafts around the field. My biggest fear is who is our scout in new Zealand!!! First Liam now Allen- not a good track record. I really hope they prove me wrong this season, & hope Lima comes back from his injuries this season on fire. But I can't see Allen turning his scrum weakness around in his first season in the prem, where any props weakness is cruelly exposed, yesterday was simply embarrassing.

Re: Team v Sale
Matt82 06 October, 2019 09:39
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Neverwas
Charlie Matthews making a good claim for starting, runs line out well & grafts around the field. My biggest fear is who is our scout in new Zealand!!! First Liam now Allen- not a good track record. I really hope they prove me wrong this season, & hope Lima comes back from his injuries this season on fire. But I can't see Allen turning his scrum weakness around in his first season in the prem, where any props weakness is cruelly exposed, yesterday was simply embarrassing.

I'll give him a bit more time than one game. Thought he did well last week when he came on

Re: Team v Sale
Shugs 06 October, 2019 11:19
Thought this was a good display. Lots of positives and I thought the selection was right in terms of getting everyone involved. Bit early to declare people can't scrummage - let's give him some time.

Re: Team v Sale
steve from cov 06 October, 2019 12:25
JTA looked very solid against Saints.


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