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Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
Discussion started by WellingQuin , 12 June, 2018 11:42
Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
WellingQuin 12 June, 2018 11:42
AUSTRALIAN WILL WORK WITH HEAD OF RUGBY PAUL GUSTARD AND WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OFF-FIELD RUGBY OPERATIONS.

Harlequins is pleased to announce the appointment of Billy Millard as General Manager (Rugby).

Millard will work with Head of Rugby Paul Gustard and will be responsible for all aspects of off-field rugby operations at the Club including strength and conditioning, medical, data analysis, psychology, sports science, recruitment, Academy and women’s team, player welfare, budgeting and operations.

The Australian (48) brings extensive experience to the Club having worked as General Manager with USA Rugby and Cardiff Blues and from his senior coaching roles at elite level with the Australian Sevens, The University of Sydney, Melbourne Rebels, Connacht and Cardiff.

Commenting on his appointment Millard said: “It is a privilege to be joining a club with such a strong pedigree. Harlequins is a prestigious brand on and off the field which I’m looking forward to contributing to.

“I’m committed to delivering a high-performance environment for the players that translates into sustained on-field success. I am here to win and I look forward to helping make that happen.”

Harlequins’ Chief Executive David Ellis said: “Billy Millard arrives at Harlequins with a wealth of knowledge as a General Manager from his time at USA Rugby and Cardiff Blues. He impressed with his character and attitude and is the right guy to set us on the path to delivering the biggest prizes at Harlequins.

“Billy will work closely with our Head of Rugby Paul Gustard to produce an environment that breeds success and he is joining at an exciting moment for the Club. We believe our new management team will take a big step to helping us achieve our mission of taking Harlequins back to the top of English and European rugby.”

Harlequins has divided the role of Director of Rugby in two with the Head of Rugby focusing on the senior squad and the General Manager taking responsibility for enabling high-performance across the Club’s entire rugby department. Gustard and Millard will take up their appointments on July 2nd. Both will report to the Chief Executive.

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
Jammy Git 12 June, 2018 11:46
Impossible. RugbyInsideLine said it was a done deal and Ben Ryan was the man.



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Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
blucherquin 12 June, 2018 11:47
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Impossible. RugbyInsideLine said it was a done deal and Ben Ryan was the man.

They’re never wrong - must have changed his name.

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
The Dead Baron 12 June, 2018 11:49
Meh.

Not meaning that to be rude, just...... *shrugs* A bit, well, whelmed, really. To be honest though, once the club announced the role split I was never going to be excited by this since I'm not sure how this impacts us a supporters. I'm pleased that the management set-up is sorting itself out, but for me bigger news consists of player signings and who if anyone within the current coaching set-up they'r egoing to replace (please God...).

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
HonkyTonk 12 June, 2018 11:54
Certanily qualified and fits the role the club laid out

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
blucherquin 12 June, 2018 12:08
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Meh.
Not meaning that to be rude, just...... *shrugs* A bit, well, whelmed, really. To be honest though, once the club announced the role split I was never going to be excited by this since I'm not sure how this impacts us a supporters. I'm pleased that the management set-up is sorting itself out, but for me bigger news consists of player signings and who if anyone within the current coaching set-up they'r egoing to replace (please God...).

I really don’t think we are going to be singing any players.

Training has started - moves all done.

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
The Dead Baron 12 June, 2018 12:11
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Meh.
Not meaning that to be rude, just...... *shrugs* A bit, well, whelmed, really. To be honest though, once the club announced the role split I was never going to be excited by this since I'm not sure how this impacts us a supporters. I'm pleased that the management set-up is sorting itself out, but for me bigger news consists of player signings and who if anyone within the current coaching set-up they'r egoing to replace (please God...).

I really don’t think we are going to be singing any players.

Training has started - moves all done.

Yeah, totally agree, which is why I wasn't expecting much from this mysterious announcement. I do wonder what is going to happen to The Untouchables and whether or not Gustard will have a pre-season cull.

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
HonkyTonk 12 June, 2018 12:13
I think there is a chance but I would not expect anyone "Big". Might not help us this season but I would be having a look at the U20 World Cup. Georgia as an example have some promising youngsters.

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
T-Bone 12 June, 2018 12:16
Saw this rumoured a while ago. Can't say I've ever heard of him but sounds like he's qualified and has experience in this sort of role, rather than just coaching / DOR. Hopefully he'll prove a great appointment, so welcome Billy.

Was still hoping for Ryan, but it had gone very quiet, and thinking about it I'm not really sure how it would have worked with him and Gustard. I'm not sure Ryan, with his coaching style, would have been able to step back and let Gustard put his own stamp on the team and do the coaching while Ryan just did the GM stuff.

Anyway, main people now in place, Quins said look out for more announcements this week I think, unless I misread it. Some news on the others coaches would be welcome. Would be great to announce another signing or two, but can't see it. If no-one else comes in then presumably our squad is smaller next season? I still think we're light in second row and at centre.

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
blucherquin 12 June, 2018 12:18
Interesting it doesn’t list coaching staff as his job

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
DOK. 12 June, 2018 12:42
I think David Ellis said both GM and DOR report directly to him. So if there's some sort of impasse between them, he gets to sort it out.

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
samlee99 12 June, 2018 13:27
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Meh.
Not meaning that to be rude, just...... *shrugs* A bit, well, whelmed, really. To be honest though, once the club announced the role split I was never going to be excited by this since I'm not sure how this impacts us a supporters. I'm pleased that the management set-up is sorting itself out, but for me bigger news consists of player signings and who if anyone within the current coaching set-up they'r egoing to replace (please God...).

I really don’t think we are going to be singing any players.

Training has started - moves all done.

Yeah, totally agree, which is why I wasn't expecting much from this mysterious announcement. I do wonder what is going to happen to The Untouchables and whether or not Gustard will have a pre-season cull.

I suspect they will carry on posting their hate here.

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
Brown Bottle 12 June, 2018 13:46
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I suspect they will carry on posting their hate here.

You really ought to try reading threads before posting.



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Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
Cookie 12 June, 2018 14:23
Appointment is fine for me. Has anyone ever been ‘excited’ about an appointment for essentially a player recruitment/retention/admin role?? I’d say his CV does exactly what it say on the tin. Gustard was for more of a key appointment and it feels like we got that right.

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
The Dead Baron 12 June, 2018 14:35
Totally agree Cookie.

On Facebook you suggested that Osbourne, Wiggy, and Minty are out the door?

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
Cookie 12 June, 2018 14:40
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Totally agree Cookie.
On Facebook you suggested that Osbourne, Wiggy, and Minty are out the door?

Yes, it’s been said elsewhere here and my information confirmed the same. Not sure if MM/NE/AJ have all avoided the chop as well - I guess someone has to be around until PG and his people arrive.

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
Banstead Quin 12 June, 2018 15:16
Good points T-Bone, it would have been tough for Gustard with another Head Coach type in the other role and could have led to friction and @#$%& (just like on here really).

At least he can just focus on getting the coaching and strategy sorted without looking over his shoulder.

Maybe he wants to assess the squad with his own style of play before he makes any decisions on signings. Let’s be honest, we’ve all felt that this squad can give a lot more than it has done recently.

As for the coaches, they can’t expect to be retained after last season but again, if Gustard wants to run his eye over them first, so be it.

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
Grins 12 June, 2018 15:21
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I think there is a chance but I would not expect anyone "Big". Might not help us this season but I would be having a look at the U20 World Cup. Georgia as an example have some promising youngsters.

Agree re Georgia - thought their 9 looked impressive for one.

Re GM, looks a sensible appointment. My only negative would be that he appears to have moved around a lot.

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
blucherquin 12 June, 2018 15:54
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I think there is a chance but I would not expect anyone "Big". Might not help us this season but I would be having a look at the U20 World Cup. Georgia as an example have some promising youngsters.

Agree re Georgia - thought their 9 looked impressive for one.

Re GM, looks a sensible appointment. My only negative would be that he appears to have moved around a lot.

Not that much really when family was behind most recent

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
HonkyTonk 12 June, 2018 16:07
Plus, from reading online it seems most have been down to his choice, Stepping up the ladder.

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
Dibden 12 June, 2018 21:30
The trust and respect between the 2 men is essential for this to work effectively.Without that it will create more problems than it solves.The players now have 2 bosses-not a structure that usually works well.Dont know of any ships with 2 skippers.
Also 2 rugby men reporting 2 a non rugby man.If there is a dispute of rugby matters how is DE qualified to resolve it?
Pray Paul and Billy hit it off big time!

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
blucherquin 12 June, 2018 22:15
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The trust and respect between the 2 men is essential for this to work effectively.Without that it will create more problems than it solves.The players now have 2 bosses-not a structure that usually works well.Dont know of any ships with 2 skippers.
Also 2 rugby men reporting 2 a non rugby man.If there is a dispute of rugby matters how is DE qualified to resolve it?
Pray Paul and Billy hit it off big time!

Players don’t have two bosses - just Gustard. And you may not know any ships with two skippers but there are rugby clubs with the same management structure.

And what disagreements do you think the CEO is unable to manage?

Do you think they’re going to have a row about how much a tight head should angle in at the scrum?

Rarely does the person in a company who’s the total expert on its product make it to be the boss. It’s the person that’s best at running things regardless of what the thing is

Honestly - shall we wait until they start before claiming to know how it’s going to go wrong?



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Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
Camquin 12 June, 2018 22:56
If you think Geeorgia u20 has players worth signing, I would point out that in their warm up game in Tblisi they they lost to the England Counties U20 side.

So there are better players available closer to home, none of whom have a professional contract. Most of whom would love a full time contract.

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
QuickerQuin 13 June, 2018 08:30
Symptomatic of Quins doubling staff numbers. Get two people in to do the job that one person did previously.

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
blucherquin 13 June, 2018 08:37
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Symptomatic of Quins doubling staff numbers. Get two people in to do the job that one person did previously.

That’s just equine excrement based on nothing.

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
Fearless Fred 13 June, 2018 08:48
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Symptomatic of Quins doubling staff numbers. Get two people in to do the job that one person did previously.

That’s just equine excrement based on nothing.

(Sm152) Again, I find myself agreeing with Blucher. What's happening to me?!?

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
le tiss 13 June, 2018 09:25
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Symptomatic of Quins doubling staff numbers. Get two people in to do the job that one person did previously.

That’s just equine excrement based on nothing.

To be fair, it is based on something. Its just basic maths right?

I am however confident that this particular split will actually see things improve (which actually is based on nothing).

Lets just enjoy the ride.

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
quin_jon 13 June, 2018 09:34
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Symptomatic of Quins doubling staff numbers. Get two people in to do the job that one person did previously.

Might work with the bar staff though

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
HonkyTonk 13 June, 2018 09:45
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If you think Geeorgia u20 has players worth signing, I would point out that in their warm up game in Tblisi they they lost to the England Counties U20 side.
So there are better players available closer to home, none of whom have a professional contract. Most of whom would love a full time contract.

No problem with that. Players out there, just need to look. I was just saying that there are some good players at the U20 WC who would probably be available.

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
blucherquin 13 June, 2018 10:14
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Symptomatic of Quins doubling staff numbers. Get two people in to do the job that one person did previously.

That’s just equine excrement based on nothing.

(Sm152) Again, I find myself agreeing with Blucher. What's happening to me?!?

It’ll pass, ask my wife

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
T-Bone 13 June, 2018 11:22
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Symptomatic of Quins doubling staff numbers. Get two people in to do the job that one person did previously.

Might work with the bar staff though

I don't think it would. You'd just have twice as many people wandering around gormlessly, being unable to remember a basic order, unable to see who might be next, unable to carry more than one drink at a time and unable to do basic mental arithmetic. Or, if it did improve things, you'd just get your dreadfully kept drink a little bit quicker!

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
DOK. 13 June, 2018 12:09
I just think the job DOR as we were running it may have been too big for one man, and JK relied on Head Coach to run the coaches too much. When the club realised they were going to go for a track suit type DOR, they probably realised the work of managing all the non coaching stuff and coaching stuff was too big, and so split the role.

The only kind of arguments I can see would be in recruitment of players, where DOR says "I hear X is available and i want him" and GM says "No, too expensive, terms unreasonable" and if they get stuck there, then yes David Ellis could sort them out (and there's nothing stopping him taking his problem to Sean Fitzpatrick and others - but ultimately his decision).

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
Scaramouche 13 June, 2018 12:25
Start winning things and players will be queuing up to join us.



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Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
samlee99 13 June, 2018 12:39
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I suspect they will carry on posting their hate here.

You really ought to try reading threads before posting.

You really ought to try engaging your brain before posting.

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
BuckQuin 13 June, 2018 12:47
Millard + Gustard. Hopefully means the new Quins style will be well 'ard.

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
blucherquin 13 June, 2018 13:33
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I suspect they will carry on posting their hate here.

You really ought to try reading threads before posting.

You really ought to try engaging your brain before posting.

You didn’t read the post and totally misunderstood what was being discussed

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
RodneyRegis 13 June, 2018 13:53
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I suspect they will carry on posting their hate here.

You really ought to try reading threads before posting.

You really ought to try engaging your brain before posting.

Who invited this guy?

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
DOK. 13 June, 2018 14:37
just spotted the unfortunate fact that Gustard is not a DOR but a HOR! (Head of rugby).

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
blucherquin 13 June, 2018 15:08
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just spotted the unfortunate fact that Gustard is not a DOR but a HOR! (Head of rugby).

Well we need the HOR to get us a top class hooker.

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
QuickerQuin 13 June, 2018 17:25
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Symptomatic of Quins doubling staff numbers. Get two people in to do the job that one person did previously.

That’s just equine excrement based on nothing.

I expect you meant bovine not equine. Don't worry, I don't expect you to get anything right.

Staff numbers at Quins have increased around double in the past few years.

I am sorry that you are wrong. But you are wrong.

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
blucherquin 13 June, 2018 18:05
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Symptomatic of Quins doubling staff numbers. Get two people in to do the job that one person did previously.

That’s just equine excrement based on nothing.

I expect you meant bovine not equine. Don't worry, I don't expect you to get anything right.

Staff numbers at Quins have increased around double in the past few years.

I am sorry that you are wrong. But you are wrong.

How many years are we talking for this expansion and what were the numbers at the start of the period in question and at the end?

Which jobs specifically have now got two people doing the work that one person could do - as opposed to there being more work therefore requiring more people

And finally - how are we measuring the positive or negative effects of this change?

I hate being wrong so it would be great to fill in the gaps in my knowledge.

Oh but I was right about one thing - I meant horse. It’s a phrase and it also has the beauty of being alliterative. Any alternative would be asinine.
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Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
samlee99 13 June, 2018 19:35
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I suspect they will carry on posting their hate here.

You really ought to try reading threads before posting.

You really ought to try engaging your brain before posting.

You didn’t read the post and totally misunderstood what was being discussed

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. As QQ has so clearly pointed out.

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
samlee99 13 June, 2018 19:38
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I suspect they will carry on posting their hate here.

You really ought to try reading threads before posting.

You really ought to try engaging your brain before posting.

Who invited this guy?

I'm not sure but BB has been posting nonsense for years now so he was clearly "invited" long ago.

Who "invited" you? And has he apologised yet?



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Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
blucherquin 13 June, 2018 19:44
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I suspect they will carry on posting their hate here.

You really ought to try reading threads before posting.

You really ought to try engaging your brain before posting.

You didn’t read the post and totally misunderstood what was being discussed

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. As QQ has so clearly pointed out.

That doesn’t make sense. Like your original post where you thought someone was taking about posters on here and they were actually talking about the coaching team.

Much as I disagree with QQ - he specifically hasn’t accused me of not reading or misunderstanding his post. So there isn’t even a pot for the kettle to talk to - let alone clearly.

So you’ve missed the point again old chap.

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
Dibden 13 June, 2018 21:07
Except Glos every other premiership club have a DOR.I cannot see why a suitably experienced DOR couldn’t fulfill the role occupied by JK.If PG is ambitious he will want a DOR job in the Not too distant future-it could be at Quins if they decide to restructure-or elsewhere.I remained unconvinced that having a different set you to everyone else is the right answer.We now have a HOR whose coaching to date has been as an asst coach.Our job is a step up

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
plzd 13 June, 2018 22:04
Sorry Sam you are not one of the elite little gang of regular posters you have to be invited it is a privilege open only to the private little members here you are not entitled to any opinion

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
blucherquin 13 June, 2018 23:17
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Sorry Sam you are not one of the elite little gang of regular posters you have to be invited it is a privilege open only to the private little members here you are not entitled to any opinion

You’re sweet.

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
Dave L 14 June, 2018 06:40
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Except Glos every other premiership club have a DOR.I cannot see why a suitably experienced DOR couldn’t fulfill the role occupied by JK.If PG is ambitious he will want a DOR job in the Not too distant future-it could be at Quins if they decide to restructure-or elsewhere.I remained unconvinced that having a different set you to everyone else is the right answer.We now have a HOR whose coaching to date has been as an asst coach.Our job is a step up

True on the setup bit but unless we have a breakdown of the responsibilities of all the off field staff at the other clubs I’m not sure the comparison would have a whole lot of meaning.

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
Cookie 14 June, 2018 08:10
We’re following the Leinster model, so I’m pretty comfortable with hat wig we replicate anything like their success.

And if PG ends up leaving for another job it will almost certainly be because he’s been successful for us, so, again, don’t see the problem.

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
Scaramouche 14 June, 2018 10:58
For what its worth I had a conversation with Deano at an open day when we had been promoted and asked him some specific questions about players talking to refs too much and player conditioning etc. His response.."Oh I leave all that stuff to the back room boys.."



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Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
Quinten Poulsen 14 June, 2018 11:42
Anyone know how Gustard's role will differ to Mapletoft's, aside from PG will pick the team? And also regardless of any specific coaching role PG may take on, such as defence.

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
samlee99 14 June, 2018 11:47
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I suspect they will carry on posting their hate here.

You really ought to try reading threads before posting.

You really ought to try engaging your brain before posting.

You didn’t read the post and totally misunderstood what was being discussed

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. As QQ has so clearly pointed out.

That doesn’t make sense. Like your original post where you thought someone was taking about posters on here and they were actually talking about the coaching team.

Much as I disagree with QQ - he specifically hasn’t accused me of not reading or misunderstanding his post. So there isn’t even a pot for the kettle to talk to - let alone clearly.

So you’ve missed the point again old chap.

Laughably avoiding the point "old chap". Do you ever think before you post?

Silly question. The answer for all to see is no.

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
samlee99 14 June, 2018 11:49
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Sorry Sam you are not one of the elite little gang of regular posters you have to be invited it is a privilege open only to the private little members here you are not entitled to any opinion

Indeed. The Plonker has inadvertently posted something vaguely truthful for a change!

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
blucherquin 14 June, 2018 11:56
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Sorry Sam you are not one of the elite little gang of regular posters you have to be invited it is a privilege open only to the private little members here you are not entitled to any opinion

Indeed. The Plonker has inadvertently posted something vaguely truthful for a change!

Let’s end it here shall we? You can’t answer a straight question and your trolling is d-list at best. You misunderstood the conversation we were having and then started a row for reasons best known to yourself.

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
Rocker 14 June, 2018 14:46
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Sorry Sam you are not one of the elite little gang of regular posters you have to be invited it is a privilege open only to the private little members here you are not entitled to any opinion

Indeed. The Plonker has inadvertently posted something vaguely truthful for a change!

Let’s end it here shall we? You can’t answer a straight question and your trolling is d-list at best. You misunderstood the conversation we were having and then started a row for reasons best known to yourself.

Yes quite (Sm120)

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
Scaramouche 14 June, 2018 17:50
+1



If at first you don't succeed, Try, Try and Try again.

Re: Billy Millard to become Quins General Manager
Dibden 15 June, 2018 16:58
Cookie My understanding is Cullen as Head Coach is responsible for all rugby matters.They use Head Coach in the sense we use DOR.
A very good point raised by someone is MM’s job is now redundant because of the similarities with PG’s job so watch this space


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