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Champions Cup 20/21 draw
Discussion started by lilyg , 15 October, 2020 12:12
Champions Cup 20/21 draw
lilyg 15 October, 2020 12:12
The draw will be on 28th October

Re: Champions Cup 20/21 draw
PelerinStJames 15 October, 2020 14:53
I think for us, it boils down to

Leinster or Ulster
And
Lyon or Begles Bordeaux

If I've worked it out right.

Re: Champions Cup 20/21 draw
Abington Adam 15 October, 2020 15:00
Quote:
PelerinStJames
I think for us, it boils down to
Leinster or Ulster
And
Lyon or Begles Bordeaux

If I've worked it out right.

That looks right to me, fingers crossed for Ulster and Lyon I guess!



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Re: Champions Cup 20/21 draw
Saint Stokey 15 October, 2020 16:24
You know we'll face Leinster. It wouldn't be right if we didn't. Then probably face Clermont in the next round

Re: Champions Cup 20/21 draw
Statesman 15 October, 2020 16:48
Quote:
Abington Adam
Quote:
PelerinStJames
I think for us, it boils down to
Leinster or Ulster
And
Lyon or Begles Bordeaux

If I've worked it out right.

That looks right to me, fingers crossed for Ulster and Lyon I guess!

Not quite! If Racing beat Exeter replace Lyon with Racing - otherwise it's right.

Re: Champions Cup 20/21 draw
Dave Jackson 15 October, 2020 18:48
Normally I would be so excited for the places we could be going for a weekend away.

Hardly seems worth the effort this time.

But glad we got to Lyon in January. A true highlight of 2020

Re: Champions Cup 20/21 draw
Aberavon Wizard 15 October, 2020 19:27
We would have a job beating Bedford at the moment never mind Leinster !

Re: Champions Cup 20/21 draw
Matthew 15 October, 2020 19:57
Leinster and Lyon it will be then! For all that the teams in Europe are different, the way the draw system separates teams from the same nations has made for some very samey groups for us.

Seed everyone and let the groups fall as they fall, I say. Why not have Leinster and Munster in the same group, for instance?



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Re: Champions Cup 20/21 draw
ajack 16 October, 2020 07:04
Quote:
Matthew
Leinster and Lyon it will be then! For all that the teams in Europe are different, the way the draw system separates teams from the same nations has made for some very samey groups for us.
Seed everyone and let the groups fall as they fall, I say. Why not have Leinster and Munster in the same group, for instance?

I assume because you could then get groups that contain all French or all English sides and it wouldn't feel much like a European cup.

Re: Champions Cup 20/21 draw
Matthew 16 October, 2020 08:24
Out of interest, is anyone statistically minded enough to calculate the odds on that happening?



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Re: Champions Cup 20/21 draw
St Jerome 16 October, 2020 09:22
Quote:
Matthew
Out of interest, is anyone statistically minded enough to calculate the odds on that happening?

Looks like 25% or 1/4 to me .... the probability of getting on Irish team is 1/2 and one French team is 1/2 = 1/2*1/2 =1/4 as both events are independent one another.

Re: Champions Cup 20/21 draw
LeicesterSaint 16 October, 2020 09:54
You've forgotten about that crucial element of mathematical probability - sod's law!

Re: Champions Cup 20/21 draw
Aberavon Wizard 16 October, 2020 11:30
Bearing in mind next seasons EC is in theory a one-off format, they should have been brave and had no seeding at all, just chuck them into a hat and see what comes out !

Re: Champions Cup 20/21 draw
shendy 16 October, 2020 11:36
It's 1,000,000:1 against - and as fans of Terry Pratchett will know, million to one shots happen 9 times out of 10.

Re: Champions Cup 20/21 draw
smitferbrainz 16 October, 2020 20:13
Boring getting Leinster every year. We used to get Leinster and Castres regularly.

Re: Champions Cup 20/21 draw
Saint Stokey 16 October, 2020 23:51
Let's face it, Leinster are not going to get worse with all the backing they get and the strength of the Pro14. So the only way we can be sure of avoiding Leinster is if we get significantly better.

So, more trips to Dublin it is!

Re: Champions Cup 20/21 draw
Matthew 17 October, 2020 12:04
This was kind of my point about seeding and drawing without regard to nationality. It would massively reduce the chance of repetitive groups! Maybe as a way of keeping the European feel, you could compromise and ensure no more than two teams from the same country in each group?



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