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Re: Brentford - The proposed stadium changes
Posted by: Bazzo
Date: 06/10/2017 08:37
Hazlelwood is a complete non starter. Chelsea wanted it for a training ground and that didnít go through, the Nimbism is way to strong....... there was outrage at the 15 seater temporary stand and there are still residents outside a games saying itís a training ground you shouldnít be playing matches......
The Jockey Club are looking at selling of Kempton for development so that wonít be parking and will result in a lot of development traffic south of the M3 so canít see anything more being allowed there.....

My main worry with Brentford is that we were told it would provide a revenue stream during the week through the conference facilities that the Brentford Chairman has shelved as to risky so it may no longer provide as good an option as when first floated.

There is an unused sports arena in the Feltham area which is a significant white elephant and has been for years, called ďFeltham ArenasĒ probably not possible but Itís a 5 minutes walk From Feltham Station and is owned by Hounslow council, and close to Hazlewood

Some info on the site []

Looks like itís already been a graveyard for a couple of development projects

Jon, Nimbyism never stopped anything in the long term if you really have the stomach for a fight and prepared to play the long game. Chelsea didn't need to fight...they just had the money to go elsewhere !

If a Planning Application actually goes to appeal to the Sec of State, then it's heard purely on planning grounds and it doesn't matter what the locals think. Locals can only influence things (with Councillors etc) when it stays local and if goes to appeal it's heard remotely, and as long the application is sound from a planning perspective, it will be passed !

You only have to look at the current Hazelwood set up, to see that if you chip away and answer concerns you can usually get what you want planning wise (albit it with some restrictions, which you can work on later). Unfortunately or fortunately, depending on which side you're on, that's the way the planning business works.

If you're really serious and be prepared for setbacks and play the long game, you'll eventually get what you want.....and I'm sure that Hazelwood is the ultimate long game, nothing else makes long term commercial sense unless the man with the big bag of sugar turns up !

How long approx do you think the "long game" that you suggest would take Finno? 5-10 years maybe? That would be just for planning if we did manage to chip away at residents etc, then you have to get the finance and actually build something like a premiership stadium? Could take another few years. Bear in mind that we are losing lots every season (2m?) and that is even without being competitive enough to challenge the top of the league in financial terms. We could have spent and lost 30 odd million by the time your plan comes off. Someone has to fund that every year. Brentford is starting construction soon and will be built within three years. If we got an average 8-10k crowd without any non match day revenue it would still be a better deal than Reading. I enjoy discussing this as it is crucial in the long term survival of the club, but we will never get 10k crowds in reading. Paddy's day games are one offs, and to those who say winning games will bring people in, it didn't last year in the championship and the club has been at Mad Stad long enough to try everything. Not sure how long we've been there, 15 odd years? I live in the area and try to get people to come along and they have no interest. The passionate people on this board who go to games know this too. Brentford is the best option by far for me.

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