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News: Leeds Carnegie vs Northampton Saints - Match Preview
By Rich Lindsley
December 2 2010
Well, at the time of publication it's very much touch and go as to whether this Aviva Premiership fixture will go ahead this weekend. Assuming it does place, it will be bottom versus top on Sunday and Rich Lindsley looks forward to the game...
LEEDS CARNEGIE vs NORTHAMPTON SAINTS
AP: Sunday, 5th December 2010 - 3pm
HEADINGLEY CARNEGIE
MATCH PREVIEW
“What a difference a week makes,” is a common phrase in many walks of life. The same could be said of this weekend's Saints fixture away at Leeds. Last week it was a top of the table clash whereas this week Northampton face a team cemented to the bottom of the league with just three losing bonus points to show for their efforts. So that’s a 5 point banker then? Well maybe but there are no easy games in the premiership and for anyone who has forgotten, there once was a team destined for relegation that went to Welford Road…well you know the rest.
The formbook could not be further in the Saints favour. During the Autumn Internationals the Saints lost the services of six players and also missed club stalwarts Bruce Reihana and Lee Dickson through injury. Despite this they drew at Saracens and beat the Dragons in the LV cup, won away at Sale and frankly humiliated London Irish at a freezing Franklin’s Gardens. Over the same period Leeds have lost to the Scarlets and Sale in the LV cup and the Chiefs and Harlequins in the league. Two of those losses, Scarlets and Quins, have seen them concede more than fifty points.
A glance at the Leeds sportnetwork site led me to their last match report. (link: http://www.rugbynetwork.net/main/leeds-carnegie/s102/st164551/its-grim-in-grimsville) The amusingly named Hack Toff opens with:
“When the Chief Executive of a rugby club goes to its supporters at the end of a game to apologise for the teams display, then you can begin to appreciate exactly how bad Carnegie played at The Stoop yesterday.”
Clearly Neil back’s side are having a ‘difficult second season’, in the Premiership. So is there any hope for them at all? Well they do have some good players. Former Saints mammoth Steve Thompson and the impressively powerful Hendre Fourie return from England duty. They also have experienced players such Michael Stephenson and another ex-Saint in the bewilderingly indifferent Dan Browne. I’ll issue the warning again. There are no easy games in this league.
Well I’ve done the humble respect bit, I’ve erred on the side of caution and I’ve tried desperately not to get carried away but come on now! Does anyone expect the Saints to go to Headingley and not leave with at least 4 points? Anyone who does and fancies a bet will get great odds but ask yourself this, have you ever seen a poor bookie?
Here are the facts. The Saints set pieces are strong. The scrum appears capable of destroying any opposition. The lineout is going really well with Christian Day’s hand firmly on the tiller and the restarts aren’t bad either. In the loose the forwards are not just ferocious but also show amazing skill. Tiny leads the way with his offloading and who could fail to be amazed by Sharman’s kick through for Diggin’s try? Perhaps the only criticism that could be levelled against the pack at this stage is that they’re having too much fun shoving sides around and at times their advantage is not reflected on the scoreboard.
In the backs the Myler/Geraghty debate appears to have swung back to the former Salford City Red seen by many as the steady Eddie option. Clarke and Downey in the centres appear to be the most un-droppable combination anywhere in the squad and despite his two recent Scotland caps Joe Ansbro really will struggle to get into the first XV. In the back three the Saints have unearthed two new talents in Greg Tonks and Jamie Elliot. These two got their chances due to Foden and Ashton being away with England and Bruce Reihana being injured and they have done brilliantly.
This time last year the Saints were being described as one of the few teams in the Premiership capable of playing exciting open rugby. Supporters were enjoying the style greatly but worried how we’d go in the winter months when the going got soft. This year all the plaudits have been for the pack who were described by Edinburgh coach Rob Moffat as one of the most powerful in Europe. This shift from running flair to dominant destruction is in this writer’s opinion, no less attractive to watch and also very difficult to defend against.
Time to guess the teams. I for one am hoping that Jim Mallinder will not rush his internationals back into the team and despite a good recovery also expect Diggin to miss out following Friday’s injury. As it’s a Sunday match Murray will also not be available for selection. I’m assuming that Tonga’uiha and Mujati are recovered from their knocks. I also hope Northampton have the sense that England lacked and rest Chris Ashton. Another knocked out Saints winger, Paul Diggin, is judging by his tweets, feeling fine but surely he gets a rest too. Therefore I predict the following:
Saints
15 Tonks
14 Elliot
13 Clarke
12 Downey
11 Reihana
10 Myler
9 Powell
8 Wilson
7 Wood
6 Dowson
5 Day
4 Sorenson
3 Mujati
2 Sharman
1 Tonga’uiha
Replacements: Hartley, Dreyer, Mercey, Lawes, Easter, Foden, Ansbro, Commins
For Leeds I suspect they do not have the luxury of easing people back and that Thompson and Fourie get straight back into the team. I’m not sure on the progress of an ex-Saint, Christian Lewis-Pratt but I know he was injured at Sarries and hasn’t featured since so I doubt we’ll see him this weekend. My guess:
Leeds
15 Stephenson
14Blackett
13 Fa'afili
12 Barrow
11 Wackett
10 Thomas
9 Mathie
1 Hardy
2 Thompson
3 Gomez
4 Denton
5 Wentzel
6 Myall
7 Fourie
8 Browne
I don’t think you need the skills of Mystic Meg to know where I’m going with my match prediction. Leeds do have a chance but it requires an off day from the Saints to align with their best performance of the season. I expect a winning bonus point and if I’m brutally honest at least 40 points. Lets hope pride doesn’t come before a fall
Finally…Despite the weather the prospects for a game this weekend are good. The Leeds ground staff have stated their intentions of getting the game on. Given that Headingley is a good stadium with the combined resources of the Union and league clubs it seems likely that they will beat the big freeze.
Enjoy it if you’re going. If not there’s a plethora of media to stay in touch by including Twitter, Facebook, various websites, Radio Northampton and of course HERE! Maybe you’ll join us in the chat room. COME ON YOU SAINTS!
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Will be more than happy with just the 4 points as you say there are no easy games in the Prem - even against the bottom side.
Towsaint
Thanks a million
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If Thommo and Fourie are the international players Johnson seems to believe they are then surely they must make an impact on the Leeds team on their return. Also playing away and in potentially poor weather conditions against what must now be a desperate Leeds squad I will be very happy with a Saints win.
But if Thommo and Fourie are as average as I think they are and saints play to their potential a bonus point win must surely be the objective, even against a fired up Leeds team with nothing to lose.
Saint til I die
Great read though
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We will have to be on our game first of all. Then let's see. The games that cannot be banana skins might just prove the opposite.
Much appreciated!
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Dryathlon
4 points will do me
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Mr Flatt - If the anointed one thinks he has a point to prove over Our ex Leicester forward.
Bring it on!
Our pack can stick it oop joomper with best!
David L
What if there were no hypothetical questions?
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I'd love to but the preview is pretty spot on. I consider myself one of the more optimistic of the TykesRugby lot, but to be honest I'm only going on Sunday because it's already bought and paid for, and being an adoptive yorkshireman of over twenty years, some of the "short arms, long pockets" outlook has rubbed off on me.
Will only take slight issue with Howlin: Fourie is the genuine article and if he gets an extended run in the national team rather than the odd twenty-minute bit-part, then you will get a better view of him. Thommo however, I think is past his best.
Safe journey, see you Sunday...
Waiting for the good times ...
..and waiting ....
... and waiting ...
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