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Who Should Be Captain?


Ewels: favourite?

By P G Tips
September 13 2019

Bath’s 2019-20 Captain is due to be named “shortly”. Stuart Hooper stated at a recent season ticket holder briefing that he is a “one captain man”. His chosen skipper will be both Club Captain and First XV Captain and the “co-captains” experiment of recent seasons will end, with one captain in charge of each match.  An off season poll in the Chronicle gathered votes for 20 different players, but does that signify a wealth of leadership talent, or the lack of a stand out candidate? Let’s take a look.

75% of the votes went to only 5 of those 20: Charlie Ewels, Francois Louw, Will Chudley, Tom Dunn and Zach Mercer.

 

Charlie Ewels

Bath Academy graduate Ewels has international experience as skipper of England’s U18 & U20 teams, leading the latter to a junior World Cup final in 2015. A regular in Eddie Jones’ squads since 2016, his meagre return of 12 caps reflects England’s strength in depth at lock. He remains highly regarded and has been entrusted with leading England’s lineout on occasion. Charlie is one of a select group named by Jones as on standby for a call up to Japan should injury strike and led Bath rugby a number of times last season. As well as topping the Chronicle poll, he is believed to be the favourite within club ranks. Experience, commitment and work rate are all in his favour, but he faces strong competition for his place in the team from Elliott Stooke, new signing Josh McNally and last year’s Captain, Matt Garvey.

 

Francois Louw.

 

“Flouw” would be a popular choice. A highly visible presence, with an impressive engine, he is also a wise old head with 69 Springbok caps. In his first season at Bath he deputised for Stuart Hooper as skipper when the current DOR suffered an arm injury and has repeated the role sporadically almost every season since. At the age of 34 he still has enough in the tank to be chosen for his third World Cup. This however, is his last season, so for all his pedigree, Hooper may choose to overlook him for a longer- term choice.

 

Will Chudley

 

Chudley took on the armband several times last season, his first in Blue, Black and White. His selection showed his importance in directing play and the management’s faith in his tactical abilities. His chances this season may depend on the type of game Stuart Hooper wants Bath to play and whether it will rely as heavily on a box kicking scrum half as last season’s game plan. Many would argue that halfbacks have enough to do and should be left to concentrate on their own game. Could be the “safe pair of hands” selection, but a more dynamic presence at 9 may be preferred.

 

Tom Dunn

 

In and out of England’s training squads for the past two seasons, Tom is unlucky not to have had a cap and must be first standby choice should a hooker be injured in Japan. Eddie Jones “likes his attitude” and there is no doubt he would lead from the front and prove a durable, aggressive skipper. Hooker though is an attritional position and Bath may prefer a player who does not need to be replaced 60 minutes into a game.

 

Zach Mercer

 

Another with junior international experience of captaincy, Zach led England U20 to a 2017 grand slam and then to the U20 World Cup Final. His personal efforts took his team through two tight games, winning the penalty to snatch the lead in the last pool tie against Australia, and then scoring the winning try to overhaul South Africa in the semi final. All to no avail as England were overwhelmed by New Zealand in the final. That defeat has not dampened his enthusiasm however, the man whom Todd Blackadder compared to Kieran reed putting in several all action performances last campaign. At 22 he has time on his side, but also much to learn. Would probably be a popular choice on energy alone, but with Faletau, Louw and Underhill available, would he get regular starts?

 

There could be other candidates of course. Both Elliott Stooke and Matt Garvey will have their supporters and Rhys Priestland had the honour a few times under Blackadder. He also appeared as the club representative at this season’s Premiership launch, so is obviously considered a senior player, but the 5 above seem to be the leading contenders: or does Hooper have a surprise ace up his sleeve?

 

Whoever gets the nod will need deputies – both for the times he is rested and during matches themselves. Modern coaching thinking provides the captain with a supportive leadership group; preferably drawn from each of the key units- the front five, back row, halfbacks and outside backs. Leadership seems to have been an issue for Bath over the past 3 years with winnable games conceded at the last minute, notably and notoriously last season when if all the matches snatched away in the final minute had been won, Bath would have finished a comfortable third in the Premiership. In rugby, the best leaders know how to seize, or close out, the close fixtures. Hopefully Stuart Hooper has a man (and supporting team) in mind who can swing the odds in Bath’s favour.

 

So, who is that man? I will go with the Chronicle’s favourite and suggest it will be Charlie Ewels.

 

 

 

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CoochieCoo
14/09/2019 21:10
My vote goes to Charlie he appears to have the ability to question refs to make them think. Didn’t he get a ref to agree not to give a pen try pointing out that the infringements were not similar in a game?

Flouw has been captain many times on the field but felt it affected his game.

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charlieboa
charlieboa
15/09/2019 07:27
I would have ewels and chudley as the primary options.

Big season for ewels. I think he is v inconsistent, not helped by injuries. He occasionally looks top drawer and ultra physical but not often enough.

Get the impression chudley drives v high standards around the club, training ground etc. Think he woild command a good level of respect.

Soon i hope mercer becomes an option but happy for him to just lead by example and drag performance up as he so often doee. Impressive young man i think

copester
copester
16/09/2019 06:04
Ewels with Roberts vc for me

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18/19. Cooper Vuna.



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B4thB4ck
B4thB4ck
16/09/2019 11:41
Chudley could be a good idea as a 9 has a feel for how the game is going and whether tactics are working. Close enough to see when the forwards are blowing and often near to the ref for a quiet word.

opti
Optimist
16/09/2019 11:56
Pretty sure it will be Ewels - and for me, pretty much the perfect option.

Not many people would question his selection as a first choice starter
Good age - plenty of GP experience, a bit of international exposure - potential to be captain for years to come
Not likely to be missing much of season through Ints
When he towers over a ref he looks uncompromising but not aggressively intimidating

+ the others are all flawed. Flo is coming right to the end, might even retire if he has a really good WC, and may not even be a guaranteed starter any more. Chudley - the club scouts should be scouring the world for a Faf or a Cobus, because a really top-class 9 would push us 2-3 places up the table. Dunn has plenty on his plate. Zach - still competing for starting place and getting back in England squad.

sirtidychris
sirtidychris
18/09/2019 10:14
Ewels will get it.

The best captains are from the pack and should be the first name on the team sheet (Guy mercer WTF). Im not entirely convinced Ewels is the best lock at the club and TBH am surprised his is viewed in the same boat as Itoje, Lawes, Launchberry, Kruis by england but hayho im not a professional coach... Ewels it is.

Awp24975
Awp24975
18/09/2019 14:35
I am another who feels that the captain should be in the pack. I also believe that the captain has to be first choice in his position, and so if everyone is fit the only people who I would consider to be that is Charlie, Faletau and Francois.

I feel that when Francois has done it in the past you lose a bit of what makes him great. Faletau needs to just play, and I have been impressed by Charlie and think it could be a great option for many years.

opti
Optimist
18/09/2019 14:44
Never quite understood why the old school of captain and 'pack leader' was discarded. Seems to me like a good version of co-captains. Pack leader to stir the blood, and a cool-headed back as captain to make tactical decisions and be mates with the ref.

Awp24975
Awp24975
18/09/2019 16:44
Quote:
Optimist
Never quite understood why the old school of captain and 'pack leader' was discarded. Seems to me like a good version of co-captains. Pack leader to stir the blood, and a cool-headed back as captain to make tactical decisions and be mates with the ref.

Had forgot all about that..... Good memories!!

Montyuk
Montyuk
18/09/2019 17:33
Zach would get my vote for player of last season... even with strong competition from Ruaridh and Joe. Very consistent with his energy, tackling and line breaks. Let him grow as a player before saddling him with the captaincy.

Adopted player 2019/20: Tom Ellis

BathMatt53
BathMatt53
18/09/2019 21:46
What exactly make a good Captain these days? Someone intelligent, who understands the game perfectly, is engaging with a ref and has the respect of his peers? Not sure how we would know who that person is tbh, but Ewels seems to have caught the eye of Todd etc so seems a viable choice. I have always wanted Stooke, but he’s not on the list...he is a leader of men and brilliant on the pitch but unsure of his decision making and he could well punch the ref.

[Adoptee 19 / 20: The High ball and counter attack meister, Tom Homer]

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joethefanatic
19/09/2019 04:56
Quote:
BathMatt53
What exactly make a good Captain these days? Someone intelligent, who understands the game perfectly, is engaging with a ref and has the respect of his peers? Not sure how we would know who that person is tbh, but Ewels seems to have caught the eye of Todd etc so seems a viable choice. I have always wanted Stooke, but he’s not on the list...he is a leader of men and brilliant on the pitch but unsure of his decision making and he could well punch the ref.

I'd be very happy with Stooke as well. He was my player of last season and leads by example in a Johnno sort of way. But I think Ewels ticks more boxes and he's clearly very well thought of at many levels of the game.

... IMHO, of course.

Now in Honolulu

P G Tips
P G Tips
26/09/2019 09:00
As expected - it's Charlie Ewels.

P G Tips



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woodpecker
27/09/2019 14:02
I always say this and I know its goes against the ethos of a message board, i.e. to have opinions, but I have no idea. I really cant tell from watching the players play who would make a good captain.

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