MoTM - The League semi final away at the roundabout.


By Saint Tim
July 12 2011

The prize for the victory against Leeds was a trip to the Stadium on a roundabout to play our fierce local rivals for the potential prize of a game at Twickenham.  I was not sure at the time if this was the best warm up for the following game which was of course the Heineken Cup final.  It had been a long hard season and the squad had largely been played to a standstill but of course the club and the players want to be involved in these games.

Who was your MoTM in the Premiership semi loss away at the roundabout?

Now games against Tigers are normally slug fests between the forwards with not that much ball seen by those wearing numbers greater than 10 on their backs.  Certainly this was another fierce encounter with both sides going toe to toe.  It was not a high scoring game but it was full of incident and intensity.  From my armchair however it always felt like Tigers had the slight advantage – that they were holding us off just that little easier than we were holding them off. 

The key talking point of the game came on 32 minutes with the score still at zero zero.  Saints were for once in Tigers territory and making some progress.  Myler took a quick ball and the Tigers defence was disorganised.  Myler looked for Ashton who was, as usual, available – this time on his left shoulder, but the pass was not on so Myler went right and play continued with the referee watching the ball.  Ashton in the continuation of his run immediately passed by Manu who somewhat threw an arm out in a challenge.  The resulting contact whilst bearing no obvious malice was high and took both players off their feet.  Ashton obviously a little upset at the contact bounced to his feet and moved a couple a paces over to where Manu was sitting on the floor with his back to him. Flash then foolishly, but in the heat of the moment, shoved Manu in the back.  At this point nothing really had happened of note.  The problem was the red mist descended over Manu and he leapt to his feet and aimed a series of blows at Ashton the final one of which was delivered with real force.  To his credit Ashton did not go down, did not do a Regan and play act, he just stood his ground.

The referee was unsighted as he was watching play but he took advice from his touch judge who should have had a clear view.  On the TJ’s advice Manu received a yellow card and was an incredibly lucky boy.  Sitting on the sofa at home I wondered if the ten minutes with a man advantage may turn it around and give the Saints an upper hand.  Any idea this may be the case was quickly scuppered as after allowing him to receive treatment a somewhat astounded (and bloodied) Ashton was also shown a yellow card.

To my dying days I will never understand that decision.  Again to his credit Ashton just trooped off.

Now did this change the outcome of the game which Saints went on to lose 11 – 3?  Well to be honest I cannot say that it did.  It was very close throughout but Saints were always just second best.  We do not have a good record against a team playing a man down BUT we will never know.  What I do know is that game took an awful lot out of the players.

There was one other incident worthy of discussion and it shows up two other important points.  Saints had a scrum on our own five metre line and we were penalised with a turnover to Tigers.  Under the watchful eye of the ref Dylan then took three playful (I don’t want to be too controversial) slaps from one of the Tigers front row.  This was obviously to try and wind up the supposedly hot headed Saints hooker.  Now as I say this took place right under the nose of the ref who did absolutely nothing.  At a minimum he should have warned the Tigers player.  I bet if the roles had been reversed it would have been a penalty against Dylan.   To his great credit Dylan did the taking in the next scrum where he took the ball against the head.  Well done Dylan – poor show Barnes.

So, who caught the eye?

Apart from Thugilagi that is – I am sorry that was just too obvious to miss.

In third place was Courtney Lawes with 19.6% of the votes.  Long Arm was everywhere and that he was the subject to some nasty posts that he was over the edge from our bouncy chums just shows how well he did in fact play.  It was the epitome of why we never liked Johnson (but our bouncy chums did).  They will love Long Arm if he plays like that in a white shirt.

2011 AP Semi Courtney

In second place was Mr dependable - Roger Wilson with 25% of the votes.  The alias really says it all.  Roger is a fabulous player and should in my opinion warrant another game or two for his native Ireland.

2011 AP Semi Roger

The winner – and the recipient of a black eye to boot was Chris Ashton with just under 40% of the votes.  Chris played well and took the blows of Manu and the referee with great distinction.  Well done young man – just leave out the push next time whatever the provocation.

2011 AP Semi Flash - What me Ref?

First of all my thanks to all 56 people who took the time to vote.  This is a very disappointing total for such an important and televised game.  I sometimes wonder if it is worthwhile producing this when we get such a low turnout.   I have one more to produce then I will consider next season over the summer.

 

Full Result

2011 AP Semi Full Result 

Previous Winners

2011 AP Semi Previous Winners 

Vote History

2011 AP Semi Vote History 

Who wins?

2011 AP Semi Who wins 

Leaderboard

2011 AP Semi Leaderboard 

Players Used

2011 AP Semi Appearances 

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MoTM - The League semi final away at the roundabout.
Discussion started by ComeOnYouSaints.com , 12/07/2011 20:37
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12/07/2011 20:38
Please let me know what you think.

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Saint Tim
14/07/2011 10:14
Does no one have anything to add or comment on this?

I do know that no one - me included spotted an error that was introduced some time back. I have corrected it for the final report of the season and implemented a check so that I cannot do the same error again.

Anyone spot it?

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Howlin
14/07/2011 10:59
It's probably a match that most of us want to forget Tim. Don't be dosheartened by the lack of votes either. I think sometimes this need sto be taken in context against teh numebr of people who actually contribute to the board (not just read it) and once again the lack of votes for this one may reflect most supporters attitude just after teh match.

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Matthew
14/07/2011 12:58
SaintTim - I don't usually comment to your MotM posts, but I do enjoy reading them and I also take the time to vote just as long as I saw the game and can reasonably judge who played well.

As to the error - you've spelt 'Euan' wrong on the list of players used, but I can't spot anything else!

Saint Tim
14/07/2011 13:45
Matthew, Thanks for the feedback - that isn't the error. Interestingly that spelling mistake has been there all season as I now use a database and so it picks up the name from there.

The error is that during testing for my database (I was doing some fixes and improving it for me so it was easier to enter data) I added a sixteenth player to an already existing game. That in itself is not too bad BUT I also gave a very high score to the phantom player making him the winner and thus robbing someone of a win.

It does not alter the final outcome but it does mean in my analysis for Bruce I robbed him of a victory this season.

Now which game and to whom did that victory get given to?

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Matthew
15/07/2011 00:27
If I remember rightly, the game was the disappointing loss at Exeter. Can't easily work out who got awarded the MotM instead, though!

Saint Tim
15/07/2011 07:59
The correct team - the wrong venue.

If you look above at the previous winners section you will see Alex Waller listed as the winner that day. If you cared to look on the Offy you would see he wasn't even involved that day.

I remember thinking when writing up that he had won his third MoTM that I couldn't remember the second - well that was because of this :-)

I found it as I was looking at stats for the season review.

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