Saints v Tigers Prem Cup 1st November 2024 - Teams Up

By Saint Ted
October 31 2024

This is the Northampton Saints v Leicester Tigers Prem Cup match thread

Who: Northampton Saints v Leicester Tigers

Where: Franklins Gardens

When:  Friday 1st November 2024; 19:45

How do I watch: TNT 1/Discovery +

Tickets: Tickets available From Saints

Match day info: Guide to the Gardens

Saints take: Saints O'ffy

Tigers Take: Tigers O'ffy

Officials:

Referee: Harry Walbaum
Assistant referee: 
Adam Leal and Calum Howard
No. 4: 
Neil Chivers
TMO: 
Peter Allan

 

Teams:

Northampton Saints   Leicester Tigers
George Hendy 15 George Pearson
Mitieli Vulikijapani* 14 Malelili Satala
Tom Litchfield 13 Will Wand
Charlie Savala 12 Solomone Kata
Tom Seabrook 11 Jack Kinder
George Makepeace-Cubitt 10 Jamie Shillcock
Archie McParland 9 Tom Whiteley
     
Tarek Haffar 1 James Whitcombe
Craig Wright 2 Finn Theobald-Thomas
Luke Green 3 Tim Hoyt
Chunya Munga (c) 4 Côme Joussain
Gavin Thornbury 5 Tom Manz
Fyn Brown 6 Matt Rogerson
Angus Scott-Young 7 Emeka Ilione
Henry Pollock 8 Kyle Hatherell
     
Replacements:    
Nathan Langdon 16 Archie Vanes
Emmanuel Iyogun 17 Archie van der Flier
Sonny Tonga’uiha 18 Henry Mountford
Will Spencer 19 Lewis Chessum
Josh Kemeny 20 Sam Williams
Jonny Weimann 21 Charlie Bemand
James Ramm 22 Charlie Myall
Ewan Baker  23 Tom Threlfall

*denotes guest player (Saints)

Not available for selection:
Juarno Augustus, Emeka Atuanya, Fraser Dingwall, Sam Graham, Tom Lockett, Alex Mitchell, Burger Odendaal, Toby Thame and Robbie Smith.

International duty:
Alex Coles, Trevor Davison, Tommy Freeman, George Furbank, Ollie Sleightholme and Fin Smith (all England).

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Saints v Tigers Prem Cup 1st November 2024 - Teams Up
Discussion started by Marching On , 31/10/2024 12:00
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31/10/2024 12:00
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2024:11:11:13:27:35 by Saint Ted.

Saint dolph
31/10/2024 12:42
Good team. Any one know anything about the new winger? Good to see tiny the 2nd on the bench

tigerburnie
31/10/2024 12:55
As I just posted on the Tigers site, 2 decent mixed sides, interesting to me is 4 Saints and 7 Tigers have all played at the Lions in National 1, be good to see how they go.

StLaziosi
31/10/2024 12:58
Interesting squad looking forward to seeing how most go and in the spirit of the tournament, tigers centres will take some managing. Names missing are intriguing namely, Nonleh, Prowse, G Smith, Logan, Garside, Cousins and Glister. Will await Bedfords team but hope to see these also rotate and come in for appearances during the rest of the prem cup.

Chris Hoddle
31/10/2024 13:36
looks like Mitieli Vulikijapani ha s played 7s for Saracens when Saints used to host the seven a side tournament.
He had an ACL injury at the end of 23 then start of 24.
Played for Hull Rugby league so perhaps knows Radders and Radders him. Looks quick and strong.

http://chrishoddle.smugmug.com/photos/i-TsCHdzK/0/M/i-TsCHdzK-M.gif

Tiggs
31/10/2024 13:38
Saints have 15/23 who have played Premiership this season, and Spencer and Haffar with good previous experiences, vs 11/23 for Tigers.
Saints experience and home advantage to win this one I think.

Santiago
31/10/2024 13:49
Looks a very experimental line up. Is the Tigers team equally experimental?

Tiny junior at 18 seems to be joining the line of young english tight heads

Presumably there are rules that prevent players representing two teams - so anyone appearing for Blues won't be able to play for Saints later in the competition and vice versa

Matthew
31/10/2024 13:56
Mini Tiny to make a big impact off the bench?

Saint dolph
31/10/2024 14:07
Its crazy I look at that team and it's a very handy team I see pollock at 19 years of age as the big stand out player along with Hendy.

SaintsDuncan
31/10/2024 14:21
Quote:
Santiago
Presumably there are rules that prevent players representing two teams - so anyone appearing for Blues won't be able to play for Saints later in the competition and vice versa

Thought I read somewhere that players aren't "cup-tied". The only stipulation being they had to have played in the league games to feature in the knock-outs

Tiggs
31/10/2024 15:14
Quote:
Santiago
Looks a very experimental line up. Is the Tigers team equally experimental?

Tigers team is even less experienced than Saints, only 11 of the 23 have ever been in Premiership squad, and several are junior loanees.



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twsaint
31/10/2024 15:54
Thought I read somewhere that players aren't "cup-tied". The only stipulation being they had to have played in the league games to feature in the knock-outs[/quote]

That's right.

Saint Maul
31/10/2024 17:04
I’m looking forward to seeing 18 year old Tiny Two getting his first team debut.

Always2Hopeful
31/10/2024 18:05
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Saint Maul
I’m looking forward to seeing 18 year old Tiny Two getting his first team debut.

Maybe he should be christened ’Teeny’ to differentiate from his dad?? 😂😂

St Stokey.
31/10/2024 20:30
Mitieli Vulikijapani appears to be a 30 year old Hull FC League winger. Whilst he may be quick and know Radders, is he not a little old to be taking a punt on?

Buzzer
01/11/2024 07:24
I hope the Tigers no. 13 doesn’t work too much of his magic….
I’ll get my coat.
Interesting teams. On TNT Sport 1.



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Saint dolph
01/11/2024 07:31
Quote:
St Stokey.
Mitieli Vulikijapani appears to be a 30 year old Hull FC League winger. Whilst he may be quick and know Radders, is he not a little old to be taking a punt on?

I think it depends on the cost. He's prob come in cheap plus could still have 3 good years left in him if he works out. Looks like he has potential. Quick and a big guy. Down as heavier than tommy Freeman.

tigerburnie
01/11/2024 08:56
Quote:
Buzzer
I hope the Tigers no. 13 doesn’t work too much of his magic….
I’ll get my coat.
Interesting teams. On TNT Sport 1.

A replacement for Harry Potter............................................

Connorman
01/11/2024 11:56
Kata’s red card after what, 20 minutes, maybe?

lilyg
01/11/2024 12:41
Quote:
Always2Hopeful
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Saint Maul
I’m looking forward to seeing 18 year old Tiny Two getting his first team debut.

Maybe he should be christened ’Teeny’ to differentiate from his dad?? 😂😂

(Sm6)

Rutland Saint
01/11/2024 14:01
Quote:
tigerburnie
Quote:
Buzzer
I hope the Tigers no. 13 doesn’t work too much of his magic….
I’ll get my coat.
Interesting teams. On TNT Sport 1.

A replacement for Harry Potter............................................

I used to know his Dad, 100% Spalding Muggle!

Saint Maul
01/11/2024 16:22
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lilyg
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Always2Hopeful
Quote:
Saint Maul
I’m looking forward to seeing 18 year old Tiny Two getting his first team debut.

Maybe he should be christened ’Teeny’ to differentiate from his dad?? 😂😂

(Sm6)

👍 It feels fitting the son of Tiny gets a good nickname.

It made me wonder what are the best sporting player nicknames . From rugby I love M1 (two hard shoulders) Dingwall. Not Nots - as in not London, not Irish. 36 for Billy Twelvetrees. In football Fitz Hall’s nickname of One Size. Any other good nicknames out there?

St Stokey.
01/11/2024 17:12
Tigers must be confident, only fielding 13 players to our 14!

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JohnI
01/11/2024 20:20
Please please please Healy keep quiet, your biased comments are not only stupid but unworthy of a so called professional.
He should never be a commentator in these matches.

Push Over
01/11/2024 20:35
Austin was just absolutely ruined by Sam Vesty with a brilliabt put diown. Awesome!😀

Buzzer
01/11/2024 21:18
Agree about Healey. He’s embarrassing
Stupid comments about not saying peoples full names.
Great performance by the Saints though.

Sir Hector
01/11/2024 21:19
Whilst MacParland may have been deserving of some of the criticism levelled at him on this board. The coaches faith in him is starting to look well placed. He’s looked quite special tonight, very much out of the Mitch mould!

Saint.Kenneth
01/11/2024 21:38
Apparently, about 20+ years ago….Big John Leslie went down to Welford Road………… 🤣

Really good to see what’s coming up behind our first choice squad, some very talented young men. I think every player was at least 7/10. So good to see the DNA of the club running through the entire playing squad.

Stopsy
01/11/2024 21:39
Well played Saints.

Neil-H
01/11/2024 21:47
This tournament will help McParland so much, it was a step down and he showed he has the talent and the class to shine… he just needs to believe it and us liot, me included need to as well!

He made a point of keeping their back row keen, n just showed he can play rugby!



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tigersimon
01/11/2024 21:58
Quote:
Stopsy
Well played Saints.

+1

Pollock, GMC, McParland, Hendy & Haffar all excellent.

Saint dolph
01/11/2024 22:16
Most pleasing thing tonight was mcparland and Cubitt makepeace completely out playing there more experienced opposite numbers. It's not prem level but both were very very good tonight along with others mentioned already . Starting to see why vesty raves about mcparland .

Neil-H
01/11/2024 22:37
Quote:
Saint dolph
Most pleasing thing tonight was mcparland and Cubitt makepeace completely out playing there more experienced opposite numbers. It's not prem level but both were very very good tonight along with others mentioned already . Starting to see why vesty raves about mcparland .

At U20s McParland was class, he struggled when brought on last season, he struggled this season, except was it last game?

This game was a step up from U20s n n step down from Premiership, he showed he has the ability to be a very good 9…. When Tom James joined us, I got so frustrated with him, but it was because all he had played was championship rugby and he always wanted that extra second, step, thought? N think he got told, get the ball n just play it…. Towards the end of the season, he’s got use to speed of premiership rugby… hopefully McParland will be the same and will then surpass James smiling smiley

All Downhill
01/11/2024 22:44
Wow what a performance really entertaining, looking to run from anywhere on the pitch. They all stepped up tonight but amazing performances from Hendy, Pollock, hafar, and Makepeace-Cubbit the future looks good.

Awaywin
01/11/2024 22:49
I thought Fyn Brown went about his business very nicely.

stoofer
01/11/2024 22:56
Thoroughly enjoyed that!

It's amazing to me how much George Hendy already looks like a Senior player.....at 22! He really does do some extraordinary things on a rugby field.

FatAlan
01/11/2024 23:10
Not seen the match yet but from recent performances, Hendy appears to be a leader in the making, if not already. How many matches has he played since returning from injury. .. & making an impact in all.

Saint Maul
01/11/2024 23:30
If we can’t buy them then we need to grow them and we are very lucky to have such talented youngsters as Pollock, McPharland and Makepeace-Cubbitt.

Teeny looks ridiculously huge for an 18 year old. Almost as tall as Munga and already far wider. Playing first team tighthead having just turned 18 is crazy.

Merlin-k
02/11/2024 00:06
That was fun to watch.
It is hard to believe that Hendy and Pollack wont have an England shirt or two to their name. And there is clearly a lot of hype around them. But it is simple to believe we have quite a few more England players in our junior squad at the moment. And they grew into it as the game progressed. There are some incredible moves during that game. Some stunning side steps. And simply enjoying the amazing game. Plenty of mistakes, but I think the Saints way is that allowing mistakes also means there will be those moments that no other team can do.
Loved it.

Saint Gordo
02/11/2024 00:23
No real surprise Young Master Pollock gets on the score sheet and showed up almost everywhere. His upside just seems to increase each time out. Critical for Saints to take it carefully with him - not too many games in a row and manage the minutes. He is still only 19 and has the possibility of an awesome career in front of him.

Sir Hector
02/11/2024 09:42
What struck me most about the game was the magnitude of effort put in by both teams. It was a fearsome contest with pace and agression for the full 80 mins. I feel sorry for the young Tiggers back three who deserve far more credit that they are likely to receive. Out played by their opposite numbers they could have lost the will and let their heads drop but no, they were still giving it all at the end. Hatherall was everywhere, and when Spencer came on he was visibly blowing after a couple of phases trying to match the pace and intensity. Wand looked very dangerous and yet it was Whitely and Shilcock who looked like the juniors on the pitch at times. If this is the future, I like it very much!

Saintsman94
02/11/2024 10:14
One of the big things we lost this season is fierce competition for lots of places. On last nights showing and with plenty more Prem cup games to come, I think first team players will start fearing for their shirts. This cup could have come at a great time for us.

Saintsman94
02/11/2024 10:27
Also worth noting that Nonleh, Smith and Benson are all getting starts against premiership competition (Bristol) for Bedford this weekend. The squads experience level is going through the roof thanks to the cup.

tigersimon
02/11/2024 10:31
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Sir Hector
What struck me most about the game was the magnitude of effort put in by both teams. It was a fearsome contest with pace and agression for the full 80 mins. I feel sorry for the young Tiggers back three who deserve far more credit that they are likely to receive. Out played by their opposite numbers they could have lost the will and let their heads drop but no, they were still giving it all at the end. Hatherall was everywhere, and when Spencer came on he was visibly blowing after a couple of phases trying to match the pace and intensity. Wand looked very dangerous and yet it was Whitely and Shilcock who looked like the juniors on the pitch at times. If this is the future, I like it very much!

Yes both sides gave it all for the full 80 and it was good to see Tigers get a try towards the end.
Yes our back three are very raw but look good prospects.
Unfortunately our more ‘senior’ players didn’t really step up yesterday evening and areas we should have won on paper we certainly didn’t!

Stopsy
02/11/2024 11:15
Interesting to see what a difference it made when our hooker had to actually strike for the ball, you stuffed us in those two scrums whereas with the now traditional feeding of the @#$%& there was rough parity.
A thoroughly enjoyable game and I loved our determination lasting the whole game.

twsaint
02/11/2024 12:29
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Saintsman94
Also worth noting that Nonleh, Smith and Benson are all getting starts against premiership competition (Bristol) for Bedford this weekend. The squads experience level is going through the roof thanks to the cup.

Plus Glister

twsaint
02/11/2024 12:29
Quote:
Saintsman94
Also worth noting that Nonleh, Smith and Benson are all getting starts against premiership competition (Bristol) for Bedford this weekend. The squads experience level is going through the roof thanks to the cup.

Plus Glister
Sorry , that's a repeat.



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Saint Robert
02/11/2024 13:44
Really enjoyed the game and thought all of the backs played well. It was a bit worrying seeing both Seabrook and Ramm go off injured, plus Hendy was limping right at the end. With all our international backs away, who will cover wing if these 3 guys don't recover in time for next weekend?

NGSB
02/11/2024 15:04
Quote:
Saint Robert
Really enjoyed the game and thought all of the backs played well. It was a bit worrying seeing both Seabrook and Ramm go off injured, plus Hendy was limping right at the end. With all our international backs away, who will cover wing if these 3 guys don't recover in time for next weekend?

With respect, we play Nottingham next weekend - I think we will manage !

ramseysaint
02/11/2024 15:31
I enjoyed watching Pollock's work off the ball as much as when he was involved in plays. His reading of the game and his instructions to other players makes him look like a future captain and team leader.

twsaint
02/11/2024 16:09
Quote:
Saint Robert
Really enjoyed the game and thought all of the backs played well. It was a bit worrying seeing both Seabrook and Ramm go off injured, plus Hendy was limping right at the end. With all our international backs away, who will cover wing if these 3 guys don't recover in time for next weekend?

Baker, Garside, Glister, Cousins.

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