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Life as an Ultra fan


By Carnegiette2
March 5 2020

It’s been hard to support Yorkshire Carnegie this season. Not just the (entirely foreseeable) results which have seen heavy defeats in every game. There’s the disconnect between fans and the Players and Coaches. The fact that there are different players every week- often bearing no relation to the announced team.

The unwillingness of the Club to talk to us about the future- and the doubts this brings. The article in The Times calling us the "worst club in the country". The "fan shaming" - "how can you still support the club after all they’ve done?"

This perfect storm has driven many "supporters" away, and reading the above I get it, and I am deeply frustrated. Conversely though, it has engendered a "blitz spirit" amongst the behind the posts faithful (now known as the Ultras) that has us laughing and joking as multiple away tries are scored in front of us, and yelling our heads off if we do look likely to score. The gallows humour has us turning up every week hoping for a miracle while knowing it won’t happen.he

Thel #girlsontourgo to most away games - 2 of us went to Penzance for 1 night in January. One of the Ultras has a unique approach to naming people, so one of us is Brian who isn’t really Brian, and who is not the Messiah but is now also known as Mystic Meg. On the pitch we shout for Mark (not his given name but you might be able to guess who we mean). Also Trees and a Lobster. The tougher the watch the more random is the Ultra humour (the appearance of a small dog on the south stand on Sunday had us in stitches, now we can legitimately say we are watched by "one man and his dog").

On a serious note - clearly on the pitch this season’s results are unsustainable. Tough for the players who are "men against boys" and not easy to watch. Since the squad was hastily assembled by Martyn Wood, he has been shown the door. The "last throw of the dice" is the appointment of Phil Davies, but those expecting an instant turnround of fortunes (not me) and open communication have been disappointed. Two fans meetings have been organized and postponed. On a wider note and mentioned elsewhere professional/semi-professional rugby in Yorkshire is in the doldrums, and the future of professionalism in the second tier is in doubt.

Lots of questions aboutout future surround the Club as they have for 12 months. In many ways it would have been easier to throw in the towel last summer, but the CVA was done to try and survive not as a method of extinction. Will we be here next season? If the club is, the Ultras will be. Winning is important – but spending time laughing and joking with like-minded pals is more so…… if you want to come and join us there’s plenty of room.😃

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Life as an Ultra fan
Discussion started by TykesRugby.co.uk (IP Logged), 05/03/2020 16:38
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leeds_shark
WPL
05/03/2020 16:48
Great read C2....to anyone wondering you donít have to even be a regular ultra, I stand behind the posts when I donít have the kids in tow.

I enjoyed the conspiracy theories as well on Sunday....best left in said on here ;-)

Personally I would be happy to know if there is a next year or not, if there is then great, letís start planning our away trips (Iíll leave Plymouth to the girls on tour!), if not then at least we know and we can say ta-ta to the club.

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almostatyke
05/03/2020 16:48
Nice one Cyril (I mean C2).

Carnegiette2
Carnegiette2
05/03/2020 17:21
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almostatyke
Nice one Cyril (I mean C2).

Thanks Alison

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opuscoitus
05/03/2020 18:40
While the rugby on the pitch hasnít been the best Iíve seen or even played in the company and banter has The light hearted approach has proved more therapeutic than not bothering to attend or just giving up

If YC are going to carry on in any form next season anyone welcome behind the sticks and if its National one some local away games we can build the ultras following,

Hopefully players/team/club will also buy into this and share a beer or two with supporters that are seen to care

Great post C2

See you all behind the sticks

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almostatyke
05/03/2020 18:58
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almostatyke
Nice one Cyril (I mean C2).

Thanks Alison

(Sm6)smileys with beer

As a retired person (early retirement at 45 - honest) I am so sick of watching the depressing news at the moment, as many of you know my personal circumstances, I get it on the French news too.
So great to see some humour and I love the Ultras tag, though my son, who became an Ultra in Italy, says you need to buy some flares.

Me, I would just get my mum to sew in a triangle in my straight jeans. It (sort of) worked in the 70's.



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opuscoitus
06/03/2020 07:32
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almostatyke
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almostatyke
Nice one Cyril (I mean C2).

Thanks Alison

(Sm6)smileys with beer

As a retired person (early retirement at 45 - honest) I am so sick of watching the depressing news at the moment, as many of you know my personal circumstances, I get it on the French news too.
So great to see some humour and I love the Ultras tag, though my son, who became an Ultra in Italy, says you need to buy some flares.

Me, I would just get my mum to sew in a triangle in my straight jeans. It (sort of) worked in the 70's.


We tried the flare idea.......well it was a half used 5 for a quid lighter found in my old jacket and a vape ........until we were told it was dangerous to all the fans in the carnegie stand by one of the stewards who outnumbered us that game (Sm6)

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almostatyke
06/03/2020 17:49
Looking forward to a nice relaxing weekend.........and on Monday our points difference will be the same rather than 50 points worse.

(Sm113)

JDH1
JDH1
07/03/2020 14:54
I watched the rhinos at HC Thursday evening. Similar scoreline to what I am a custom too but the larger number was read out first.

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almostatyke
07/03/2020 19:51
Nice post JDH1. Perhaps if Caddick is in a jovial mood - and Rhinos went top following that match - he might think of getting his cheque book again out to support a local RU side?

JDH1
JDH1
07/03/2020 20:17
His company seems to be doing well but not sure he has the appetite anymore.

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almostatyke
07/03/2020 20:48
His company had a bit of a hiccup when three streets in Manchester city centre were closed due to cladding, not fully installed, blowing off the tower block in the recent storms.
But overwise he seems to be going from strength ot strength.
He must be about 70 now - surely time to retire and pursue a hobby: remember that unfinished business at Leeds Tykes/Carnegie?

JDH1
JDH1
09/03/2020 21:00
Think that ships sailed.

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almostatyke
11/03/2020 20:38
Hi Alison here, wonder how our team would cope playing behind closed doors, if it was forced on us by the pesky virus?
Playing in a stadium with empty seats all around - do you think they could manage?


(Sm100)(Sm100)(Sm100)

leeds exile
leeds exile
12/03/2020 07:53
If the season is abandoned, will there be a reprieve?

JDH1
JDH1
12/03/2020 09:06
We are that close to survival I think the case could be argued!

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leemingtyke
12/03/2020 14:57
As much as I'd hate to endure another season like this one, it might be worth it just to see Rolling Mauls reaction!

Carnegiette2
Carnegiette2
12/03/2020 18:36
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leemingtyke
As much as I'd hate to endure another season like this one, it might be worth it just to see Rolling Mauls reaction!

I think that would take down the internet wouldnít it????

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leemingtyke
12/03/2020 19:15
Quite possibly

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almostatyke
12/03/2020 19:56
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leeds exile
If the season is abandoned, will there be a reprieve?

Well things are heading in that direction:

[www.bbc.co.uk]

JDH1
JDH1
12/03/2020 21:10
Cannot technically get relegated if the seasons abandoned.....surely.

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almostatyke
12/03/2020 21:20
Never underestimate Gary Hetherington - I'm sure he had this plan all along.

(Sm100)(Sm100)(Sm100)

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leemingtyke
12/03/2020 21:45
Are you suggesting that Gary Hetherington is the source of the Coronavirus Almo?

leeds_shark
WPL
13/03/2020 11:31
It's an interesting one...the Ultra's did say I bet we get blamed for it...

Given the cancellation for the rest of this month for Football (now if any sport is going to take a commercial decision it's that one!) I'm surprised how Rugby is still pressing ahead - especially with thousands expected in Cardiff this weekend.

It does leave an interesting position for the various parties - I shall take my bias out of this and concentrate on the Sarries and Newcastle swap...Only 1 of them is certain of where they are. Ok we all know Newcastle will be promoted but it's not a done deal yet.

PRL have made a big thing about relegating Sarries so what do they do if the season isn't completed (there's summer tours lets not forget). Relegate them, but not promote Newcastle? Promote Newcastle on the assumption they would anyway?

Then that comes to us...and that is a whole can of worms, no promotion/relegation is harsh after 75% of the season played, but we could argue that we may have stayed up (Insert Strait Jacket Emoji here - but more likely looking at the top of National 1 there is no clear winner, so if they say well Richmond are 7 points clear they go up, Blackheath would have a very strong case of there are 5 games to go...it's got potential to be an absolute mess, unless there is some long forgotten regulation that covers this...



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almostatyke
13/03/2020 13:04
I think that the football decision was prompted by having players and a top manager positive for the virus.
Note Rhinos are not travelling to Perpignan this weekend because they have a player with "symptoms" in self-isolation.

As far as I am aware players/backroom staff have not tested positive in English RU so I suppose this weekend's fixtures will proceed.

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leemingtyke
13/03/2020 13:31
And to be fair, if anyone is going to be safe it's Carnegie

given that we've been in self-isolation at the bottom of the Championship since September!

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Albert Fishwick
13/03/2020 15:34
Nottingham/Jersey is off as some Jersey players are affected.

If I had all the money I've spent on drink ..... I'd spend it on drink.

leeds_shark
WPL
14/03/2020 11:34
*Gratuitous reminiscence post incoming*

With all this sport cancelled, it's a shame we haven't got a team like last year, could lead to a bumper gate as people are desperate for live sport!

Reading some of the news coming out of league 2 football clubs shows how fine a line survival is by not having some games it makes a massive difference.

I have a feeling this might be the last weekend of sport for a while!

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Gelbel
15/03/2020 10:54
Mmm - so Carnegiette and I set off to Ealing yesterday... Radio 5 Live recommended our match v Ealing to go and watch as a sport that was on. Five minutes later, people were messaging us to ask if we'd heard the news.... what news? We're driving.

As we were at our usual pit stop (Watford Gap where Costa was closed for a refurb (Sm20) ) we decided to go to see Ampthill v Pirates.

Great day had in the face of adversity and lovely to catch up with Chris Stirling and Harry Davey post match. #everycloud (Sm49) General feeling is that it was the last match for a while.

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Geoff DC
15/03/2020 23:57
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Gelbel
As we were at our usual pit stop (Watford Gap where Costa was closed for a refurb (Sm20) ) we decided to go to see Ampthill v Pirates.
Great day had in the face of adversity and lovely to catch up with Chris Stirling and Harry Davey post match. #everycloud (Sm49) General feeling is that it was the last match for a while.

Looking on the bright side Redruth are in line for promotion to ND1 so you can look forward to more games in Cornwal: Redruth v Leeds on Saturday & Pirates v Saracens (or Hartpury etc.) on Sunday.

So we can still keep up our friendships

Carnegiette2
Carnegiette2
16/03/2020 00:42
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Geoff DC
Quote:
Gelbel
As we were at our usual pit stop (Watford Gap where Costa was closed for a refurb (Sm20) ) we decided to go to see Ampthill v Pirates.
Great day had in the face of adversity and lovely to catch up with Chris Stirling and Harry Davey post match. #everycloud (Sm49) General feeling is that it was the last match for a while.

Looking on the bright side Redruth are in line for promotion to ND1 so you can look forward to more games in Cornwal: Redruth v Leeds on Saturday & Pirates v Saracens (or Hartpury etc.) on Sunday.

So we can still keep up our friendships

The #girlsontour have already twigged this and have started planning for this exact scenario. Hope Redruth do the business..... edited to add - and obviously hope we still have a team .



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