England v SA QBE International 24/11 match thoughts


By KBM
November 25 2012

England are Slip Sliding Away again................

 

 

 



England 15 v 16 South Africa

Englands Tom Youngs (left) and his brother Ben Youngs following the National Anthem during the QBE I

Englands Tom Youngs (left) and his brother Ben Youngs following the National Anthem during the QBE International -All Pictures Empics

How depressing was that then?  You have to be made of stern stuff to support England Rugby these days and you have to be even dafter to write any review or match report.

Well here goes......  First of all congratulations to South Africa.  That said the try was a bit lucky don't you think?

Anyway, it is uphill now as I don't think England will beat New Zealand next week, which means no chance of a top 4 seeding for the 2015 Rugby World Cup Draw aggghhh!

That aside, England did show signs of improvement with their decision-making on the field, apart from Captain Robshaw's last one. With England trailing 16-12 and only two minutes left, he told replacement fly-half Owen Farrell to go for goal rather than opt for an attacking line-out that could have possibly led to a try.  And sadly this was the main talking point and will no doubt rumble on.,

I felt both this week and last week that the players looked very lean and fit and  matched the Springboks physically.  The scrum looked good this week but the line out, well more work to be done on that.

 

Englands Joe Launchbury claims the ball from a lineout during the QBE International match at Twicken

One we Got!

Penalties were kicked and oh dear here we go again penalties were missed, Toby missed two and they were crucial to this match.  I have said many times, games can be won or lost on missed goal kicks.  Oh well, I am depressed enough without dwelling on it too much.

England captain Chris Robshaw speaks with referee Nigel Owens as a decision is pending on a South Af

England captain Chris Robshaw speaks with referee Nigel Owens as a decision is pending on a South Africa try

South Africas Willem Alberts scores the only try of the game

South Africas Willem Alberts scores the only try of the game - QBE International - England v South Africa - Twickenham

The South African try as I said to my mind was a very lucky one.  It came from a penalty awarded against Mike Brown deep in the England's 22, South Africa kicked to touch and from the attacking lineout, Ben Youngs’s attempted fly-kick rebounded off Pietersen and headed towards the tryline. Unfortunately Tom Wood failed to gather the ball and Alberts dropped on the ball for an easy try.

Englands Alex Goode fends off a tackle during the QBE International match at Twickenham, London.

Englands Alex Goode fends off a tackle during the QBE International 

England did threatened at times in particular when centre Manu Tuilagi counter-attacked from inside his own half and found Chris Ashton in support.  However, Ashton's pass to Brown was hopeless. 

England captain Chris Robshaw after the QBE International match at Twickenham, London.   England captain Chris Robshaw (centre) after the QBE International match at Twickenham, London.

 England have now won just one of their last six games under coach Lancaster.

Match Facts: England 15 (6) South Africa 16 (9)

England
Tries - 

Pen -  Flood 2, Farrell 3

South Africa
Tries - W Alberts
Pen - Lambie 3 
Con -  Lambie

Referee: Nigel Owens (WAL)

 

England captain Chris Robshaw during the QBE International match at Twickenham, London.

This Picture says it all!

 Come on Chris, bounce back next week.

 


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England v SA QBE International 24/11 match thoughts
Discussion started by Unofficial England Rugby Union , 25/11/2012 15:01
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PoyntonShark
26/11/2012 02:02
Well, I guess I would be guilty of a truism if I stated it was a better performance than last week. But I do like looking for the positive. I'm afraid that don;t agree that our decision making was noticibly better though, and remains our biggest problem. No doubt that last decision by Robshaw will be used as a stick to beat him, and is was undoubtedly the wrong decision, but concentration on the matter will mask the real problems again.

Had Robshaw made the right decision I'm still certain that not one person connected with England rugby, from the supporters, through the team management, right down the the players, had even the first idea how England were going to construct a try. We never looked like scoring, and never tried anything different. Actually I am immediately going to diasagree with myself, we did try something differnt, our usual plan of attack consists of "give it to Manu", well we must have been using him as a decoy this week, didn't manage to pass to him till the 48th minute.

We fronted up well in the forwards, Launchbury and Parling particularly. We scrummaged solidly, though for a change seemd to be on the right side of refereeing decisions in that area. Whilst I'm on the ref, if I might be allowed to digress, I though the had a decent game, particulalrly for a man who can't see that a ball has cleared the crossbar by a good foot when he is 6 feet away. But one area puzzled me, he penalised du Plessis in the first scrum for binding on the arm, described as a marginal decision. In just about every scrum after du Plessis took exactly the same bind and no action was taken. Right, back to England. The forwards acarried much better than previous two weeks, didn't cough up anything like as much posession, but still perisisted in handling errors at the crucial moment. We still don't have a cutting edge in the backs, we rely on an individual doing something all the time, we almost fluked it again when Tuilagi intercepted, but then failed to draw the last defender and put our winger into the open expanses in front of him. Apparenly Mike Brown should have come inside i.e. closer to the defenders, to make it easier for Ashton to pass to him, I assume that is because an intenational bcak can't be expected to be able to pass accurately over 5 metres, nor to pass at the right time.

Had we not lost last week, then I suppose this would have been viewed as a decent performance, and in some ways it was, but we have lost the forward momentum we had over 6N and summer, which were by no means perfect performances, but coming from the satte we were in at RWC we were steadily improving, I feel that improvement has stalled, even gone backwards in the backs, previously we were at least trying to create something, but were lacking in execution, now we seem to be trying much less, and still often lacking in the execution.

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