Cov derby ref claims fan tried to punch him


By Brian Dick , Coventry Telegraph
October 6 2009

COVENTRY have launched an investigation into allegations that a fan aimed a punch at the referee in the aftermath of Friday night’s controversial defeat to Moseley. Young official Luke Pearce had awarded three penalty tries to the visitors, who won 28-25. Although he was not struck, the Rugby Football Union have asked the Butts Park outfit for a response having received a complaint from Pearce and his two touch judges.

The governing body have given Coventry until this morning to make their initial observations but chairman Andrew Green says the Championship club will go further than that and hold their own inquiry.

To that end, he has appealed to anyone who knows anything about the incident to contact the club so that ‘the appropriate action’ can be taken.

“We would ask anybody who has information on this incident to contact the club as soon as possible,” said Green.

“We will treat calls in the strictest confidence but it is imperative we treat this with the utmost seriousness.”

While some members of Friday night’s crowd were bemused by Pearce’s decision to award Moseley three penalty tries, others were angered.

That anger appeared to boil over when the official gave the third and decisive ruling, eight minutes into injury time.

That allowed Moseley to steal victory from a game that Coventry had led for more than half an hour.However, whatever the events leading up to it, Green is unequivocal in his stance.

“I wish to make it clear that we abhor the alleged behaviour, that we will do all in our power to identify the alleged assailant and that we will ban this person from our stadium, once guilt has been established,” he said.

“Coventry Rugby Club wishes to express its profound regret at this alleged incident particularly to the match officials. We are certain that all of our true supporters will subscribe to these sentiments.”

Rugby director Phil Maynard has openly queried the appointment of such an inexperienced referee for a local derby match, but Green dismissed any suggestion that the conduct of Moseley’s players had inflamed the situation.

“We congratulate our long-time friends and opponents, Moseley, on their victory,” he said.

Anyone with information is asked to contact Coventry Rugby Club on 02476 231 001.

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Cov derby ref claims fan tried to punch him
Discussion started by Unofficial Coventry Rugby (IP Logged), 06/10/2009 16:59
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Laugh Out Loud
Laugh Out Loud (Dave Roach)
06/10/2009 17:19
I hope they quickly find the culprit. Once they have established that the person is guilty I believe a life-time ban is the correct and only punishment. No official deserves to be physical threatened, no matter how badly they have refereed.

As a Coventry supporter I am disgusted and embarrassed. I thought this type idiotic behaviour was associated with football and not rugby. Maybe the culprit is one of the new bred of fan that has been attracted to Friday night rugby. I do hope it is not an established supporter.

covkid53
covkid53
06/10/2009 20:58
what a sad vindictive little man this referee is......someone "tried" to punch him, but DIDN'T. we witnessed him "trying" referee a rugby match, but DIDN'T.

he is merely trying to deflect blame from his inept refereeing performance.

no, it isn't right if it happened, and the person concerned should be punished......as should the referee.

what a dipstick he really is.

simon27
simon27
06/10/2009 21:52
i am sorry covkid53, whatever the rights and wrongs in your opinion of the way the game was handled - nobody but nobody has the right to assault an official or player - whether the punch connected or not. Without these officials we wouldnt have a game to watch. Lets not forget that!

Cov Exile inCumbria
Cov Exile inCumbria
07/10/2009 00:41
Spot on simon27. covkid53, the ref doesn't deserve to be punished - no ref ever deserves to be punished. We play to the rules of the game and the ref's call. End of.

LoveCov
LoveCov
07/10/2009 07:25
After reading the report in todays telegraph and The RFU agreeing the ref was wrong and with some Moseley players admitting they cheated, shouldnt The RFU order a replay to the game. As it has now been proved the whole thing was a farce and the result could have dire consequences for Cov we should have the chance to put the record straight.

Sam Skennel
Egg Timer
07/10/2009 07:58
Crikey, Covkid - by your reckoning half the playing squad should have been roundly beaten for their performances over the previous few weeks then.

captainscarlet
bigm/ mark harrison.
07/10/2009 08:33
i have to ask the question,as the performance from afar seems quite farcical and ive never heard of three penalty tries being given against one team,what was the mood of the crowd against the officials in general and were they suffering verbal abuse for their inept performance, prior the finish of the game.

Al from Cov
Al from Cov
07/10/2009 08:48
if the RFU have agreed that we didnt pull down the final scrum, then surely the P.Try should be cancelled out and Cov get the Win?
Blatant cheating which the RFU have admitted.

albie
Geoff Kennedy
07/10/2009 09:05
Lets get a few things into perspective
1. No one should assault or attempt to assault an official or player.
2. There were a lot of frustrated and angry supporters who were giving vent to their feelings- they have a right to do so, but within acceptable perameters.
3. For a young and inexperienced referee to be given such a fixture reflects badly on those who roster the referees.
4 A young referee needs mentoring at local and junior club level before being thrust into the National scene. Also a young ref. needs help from both of his assistants who in this case were older more experienced persons.
5 While there might be some justification for his award of the first penalty try - he was hasty with the award of the second one.
During the second half Moseley had a put in deep in our 22 - we disrupted their scrum - gained possession and scored a brilliant try. Unfortunately when Moseley were rewarded another put in close to our line in the 8th minute of injury time the young lad forgot the earlier break out try scenario and totally misread the situation. Moseley tried it on - the ref bought it and we lost 3 valuable league points.
6.All that said - we had enough goal kicking chances which if taken would have put us out of sight. Taking the field without a good goal kicker is rediculous. We also took 30 minutes to realise that that the game had started and once we went 11 points clear - we went into defensive mode.
7 Replacing Walls at a crucial time was baffling - he is probably our most experienced playes and would have handled the later pressure better then his replacement.

Al from Cov
Al from Cov
07/10/2009 09:37
You are right about the kicker Albie. We havent had a consistent kicker since James Moore.

MESSAGES->author
hipflask
07/10/2009 10:25
was it a punch thrown at the ref ?, or maybe just a mos fan punching the air infront of the ref, as a way of showing his pleasure at the win and thanking him !!!!!

woods, it's in the hipflask! (Steve Emms)
' COME ON COV '
http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-eatdrink055.gif

MESSAGES->author
hipflask
07/10/2009 11:01
Quote:
LoveCov
After reading the report in todays telegraph and The RFU agreeing the ref was wrong and with some Moseley players admitting they cheated, shouldnt The RFU order a replay to the game. As it has now been proved the whole thing was a farce and the result could have dire consequences for Cov we should have the chance to put the record straight.
just read it myself and i'm wondering if the scribe will have it in the brummie post ? me thinks not

woods, it's in the hipflask! (Steve Emms)
' COME ON COV '
http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-eatdrink055.gif

CharlieBravo
Cliff Bennett
07/10/2009 12:22
I've just been speaking with a Mose supporter who was at BPA on Friday night. His reaction was that Mose very lucky to have won the match and that they were completely caught by surprise when the Ref awarded them the second and third penalty tries.
It's pretty clear that the RFU are obliged to accept the responsibility for putting an entirely inexperienced Ref into a situation which was far beyond his capabilities.

covmick1/Michael Carter
covmick1/Michael Carter
07/10/2009 13:01
The referee WAS appointed by the RFU. He has officiated at various levels as previous posters have asked for. It is just a cop out to keep claiming that it was the refs FAULT. Yes some decisions will be wrong. But the ref can only give what he and his assistant see. The alleged happenings after leaving the field of play can have serious consequences for the Coventry Rugby Football Club. I will not be joining in any slanging match. But hope that this incident or others like it will never happen again at BPA. What if the referees association refused to officiate at BPA for a period of time ? I ask posters to think long and hard about this and truly consider what you are posting on the board. Many referee's and assistants plus other rugby officials read this and other message boards. Let us now move forward and let last weeks game be sorted by the people in charge.


covmick/Michael Carter

covkid53
covkid53
07/10/2009 18:49
you lot didn't read my remarks..... i said if it happened it wasn't right and the punch thrower should be punished.

my assessment of the ref has been agreed with by the rfu.

yes, i do make retorical remarks because it adds to the debate.

the rfu should now replay the match to ensure cheating and ineptitude will never win the day.

captainscarlet
bigm/ mark harrison.
07/10/2009 19:59
albie mentioned acceptable parameters to vent your frustration, well i have to say , these parameters arent at all wide.Rfu issued guidelines several years ago both to junior and national clubs which were highlighted in the clubs programme. i remember going up to waterloo about 3/ 4 seasons ago and spoke to a season ticket holder their who had been heavily reprimanded by the club mmfor criticising the officials....he was over 80 years old.....speak to ron collins about what happened at kenilworth a couple of years ago....lol...

MESSAGES->author
hipflask
08/10/2009 09:55
Rons looking very good for his age !!, as for whats being posted, its a way of venting our spleens without actual getting physical

woods, it's in the hipflask! (Steve Emms)
' COME ON COV '
http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-eatdrink055.gif

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