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Can we dream Bath v Glaws match preview


By Mr Frivilous
September 16 2020

By several quirks of fate, its just over two years since our friends from Gloucester last came to visit us at the Rec

A thrilling 31-31 draw with Bath old boy Matt Banahan scoring in the dying minutes to deny Bath a stunning comeback win from a 7-21 deficit at half time. It’s sad but necessary that this fixture will be played behind closed doors. 

There has been a lot of water under the Castle Grim drawbridge since then with changes in leadership, patchy form since the restart, out of the race for the top four and a particularly poor result against Quins last weekend. There’s not much motivation left for climbing the table as the last golden ticket to the Heineken Cup seems virtually assured for Gloucester in eighth place, nine points clear of Worcester with two games to go. Quite the reverse for Bath, a lofty third in the table, a stunning win at Sale last time out and needing a bonus point win to keep in the race for the top four should be enough incentive for Bath. 

Both teams not competing in European fixtures this weekend means plenty of rest until Tuesday’s clash, welcome relief after a hectic schedule and time for the coaches and the sports psychologists to do their stuff and ponder over team selections. 

For Bath it will be the strongest team possible with perhaps the conundrum of who to starts at half backs, Ben Spencer has been playing like a man possessed and Rhys Powlesland increasingly effective. It’s tempting to start Will Chudley and Josh Matavesi with Ben and Rhys on the bench to keep the half back options fresh for Saracens. One’s thing for sure If Danny Cipriani is playing at 10 facing Josh expect plenty of passing and kicking rather than running down Josh’s channel. 

For Gloucester who knows? A potentially easier fixture next up after Bath, at home to Northampton for that last point to secure eighth so it could be the second string, given ninth placed Worcester face Saracens and Sale they are highly unlikely to score the ten points they need to climb into eighth assuming Gloucester remain pointless. Or maybe spoiling Bath’s party will be enough incentive to field the first choice? 

This could be a close-run thing if Gloucester select a motivated first XV but hopefully the Hats and Hoops masterplan produces a Bath five pointer, not just for bragging rights but dare we dream for a place in the semi-finals? 

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hasta
16/09/2020 21:44
Quick note, the game against Sarries isn't until 4th October! No reason not to go fully loaded for both games.

Hamptonite
Hamptonite
16/09/2020 21:47
Mr Friv, we actually don’t play Sarries until 4th October - a break of 12 days from the Glos game - so team selection could be our strongest in both games.

Baffy Buck at Home
Mr Frivolous
17/09/2020 08:31
Quote:
hasta
Quick note, the game against Sarries isn't until 4th October! No reason not to go fully loaded for both games.

Noted and in the process of updating

dannyf2
dannyf2
17/09/2020 08:46
Gloucester were shocking in the week... But this makes me more nervous...

JFPC
JFPC
17/09/2020 08:59
Good preview Mr Friv. One question though, is Rhys Powlesland a wierd autocorrect or a nickname I am wholly ignorant about?

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CoochieCoo
17/09/2020 09:21
Thanks Mr F article has been changed and typo on Rhys corrected!

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Baffy Buck at Home
Mr Frivolous
17/09/2020 09:23
Weird autocorrect I'm obviously in need of a lie down from the lofty position of 3rd given the bloopers

Never In Doubt
Never In Doubt
17/09/2020 09:35
Want to dream but brain keeps reminding me of previous seasons ..... please Bath this time.

charlieboa
charlieboa
17/09/2020 09:37
If everyone is fit what team to you go for? Sure there may be an element of horses for courses but i think my squad would be as per below but some really tough calls esp in the second row and back row.

Watson
Roko
JJ
Redpath
RMc
Rhys
Spencer

Obano
Dunn
Stuart
Mcnally
Ewels
Ellis
Underhill
Faletau

Bench: boyce, walker, judge, stooke, bayliss, chudley, matavesi, tdg

Exceptionally tough on some players, for example w spencer, mercer, reid.

Lack of injuries currently does mean we are spoilt for choice in a few positions.

Ineresting to see if we get a sight of coko before the end of the season.

Old Bath Tub
Old Bath Tub
17/09/2020 09:46
Quote:
dannyf2
Gloucester were shocking in the week... But this makes me more nervous...

Exactly this - potential Banana Skin as per Wasps at home ! Sincerely hope NOT (Sm102)

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Never In Doubt
Never In Doubt
17/09/2020 10:03
Bayliss or Ellis is a tricky one. Really like Ellis's attitude and he brings good physicality which could be important against Polledri but with the new rules then I think you need 2 mobile flankers like Bayliss and Underhill to prevent turnovers and penalties.

Ali1969
Ali1969
17/09/2020 10:18
Have to say our 2nd Rows are seriously playing since lockdown - thought Charlie was exceptional against Sale, McNally always gives 120% (may be time to give him a rest) - Thought Will Spencer was really impressive when he came on and Stooke as he has for the past 2 or 3 seasons for me has been outstanding. I thought the only ones which is understandable looked rusty were Batty and Thomas.

Again I would throw Mike Williams into the mix - he offers a counter to Polledri and is a real enforcer when it comes to the tight.

I would not be surprised to see Underhill, TF or ZM, Williams/Ellis - for me that is a better balance than playing 2 opensides and an 8 and I felt this showed on Sunday when Josh suffered his head knock - we appeared a lot better balanced with the arrival of Ellis...It also improves our Lineout with Williams or Ellis.

We need the same aggressive defence as shown at Sale - we cannot afford to give Cipriani or that Glos backline an inch of room to use their pace.

If all fit I would go for a team such as:

Watson
Roko
JJ
Josh M
RM

RP
BS

Obano
Dunn
Stuart
Ewels
Spencer
Williams/Ellis
Zach M
Underhill

Reps - Boyce, Walker, Judge/Schuman, Stooke, Toby F, Chudley, Joe C (if fit), Tom De G

Bath Supporter Jack
Bath Supporter Jack
17/09/2020 11:02
Pick the best team and then worry about the next match after this one

opti
Optimist
17/09/2020 11:07
Quote:
Bath Supporter Jack
Pick the best team and then worry about the next match after this one

Agreed - a bird in the hand and all that. And trying to pre-guess what sort of Sarries team we will be facing is impossible.

charlieboa
charlieboa
17/09/2020 11:40
Absolutely no reason not to with what i think are 9 and then 12 day turnarounds?

Hopefully gives time for watson to get back and any minor knocks we receive in glos match to clear up.

Hoping sarries win at the weekend!

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Rawce
17/09/2020 11:58
Not sure whether to go all dynamic and fast in the back row and back line to counter their running threat or to stick to our strengths of a mostly beef based approach.

Baffy Buck at Home
Mr Frivolous
17/09/2020 13:21
Yeah im wrong again! Club announced pilot scheme for a 1000 supporters to attend

opti
Optimist
17/09/2020 13:34
Quote:
Mr Frivolous
Yeah im wrong again! Club announced pilot scheme for a 1000 supporters to attend

Any chance you could amend it to predict a big Gloucester win?

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Clarkey3k
17/09/2020 13:38
Quote:
Never In Doubt
Bayliss or Ellis is a tricky one. Really like Ellis's attitude and he brings good physicality which could be important against Polledri but with the new rules then I think you need 2 mobile flankers like Bayliss and Underhill to prevent turnovers and penalties.

Bayliss clashed heads with TF in a double tackle early in the Sale game and left the field, I would be surprised if he is fit to play on Tuesday next...

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charlieboa
charlieboa
17/09/2020 13:41
Quote:
Rawce
Not sure whether to go all dynamic and fast in the back row and back line to counter their running threat or to stick to our strengths of a mostly beef based approach.

Sometimes need to be pragmatic and consider the opposition but personally prefer when squads are selected on own terms. I would initially pick a massive pack and see how we get on in terms of trying to grind them into the dirt (and hope we react better than against wasps if it isn't happening for whatever reason).

I loved it when the AB's picked barrett at 6-absolute admission they were worried by England's power.

BathMatt53
BathMatt53
17/09/2020 13:41
Add Reid to that list - he has shown in the games he has played that he is very comfortable at this level already.

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Never In Doubt
Never In Doubt
17/09/2020 13:52
Good call Clarkey. I forget what the return to play protocols are but given our back row options are: Faletau, Mercer, Underhill, Ellis, Reid and Williams then it seems foolish to rush him back if unsure.

opti
Optimist
17/09/2020 14:54
Quote:
charlieboa
[Sometimes need to be pragmatic and consider the opposition but personally prefer when squads are selected on own terms

Amen to that. Or, as you youngsters say, +1

Mike the Taxi
Mike the Taxi
17/09/2020 15:38
The children of those youngsters will be saying "make it so".

Never In Doubt
Never In Doubt
17/09/2020 16:13
Why .... will they be trekkies?

charlieboa
charlieboa
18/09/2020 08:48
Quote:
Never In Doubt
Good call Clarkey. I forget what the return to play protocols are but given our back row options are: Faletau, Mercer, Underhill, Ellis, Reid and Williams then it seems foolish to rush him back if unsure.

Guess with a 9 day turnaround his chances are improved but agree it would be crazy to take any risks, esp when you consider the options available.

Shows the progress of bayliss over the last year or so that many of us would have him in the 23 over the likes of williams, ellis, mercer. Reid looks to the manner born esp when you think he was out for several mths with his acl.

charlieboa
charlieboa
18/09/2020 08:49
Squads named monday i assume?

gaz59
gaz59
18/09/2020 09:15
Quote:
Rawce
Not sure whether to go all dynamic and fast in the back row and back line to counter their running threat or to stick to our strengths of a mostly beef based approach.

Based on game stats, I would go Faletau to start to keep the beefy pressure and tight aggressive defence with Mercer on bench to come on with 20 to go with opposition tiring, especially if one or two tries needed for bonus point or simply to win the game

gaz59
gaz59
18/09/2020 09:19
By the way, that is such a great picture at the top of page. Would love to know, in the words of TV game, what happened next

a) receiver went into contact and we lost ball in turnover

b) receiver not expecting pass and dropped ball

or

c) receiver glides through gap

or none above!

Rokobilly
Rokobilly
18/09/2020 09:29
Quote:
gaz59
By the way, that is such a great picture at the top of page. Would love to know, in the words of TV game, what happened next
a) receiver went into contact and we lost ball in turnover

b) receiver not expecting pass and dropped ball

or

c) receiver glides through gap

or none above!

Knocked on in contact. We win scrum penalty. Rhys kicks to corner. 5 points from Dunny at the back of the maul.

Never In Doubt
Never In Doubt
18/09/2020 09:32
Love that Rokobilly, maybe that is our strategy. However, now you have highlighted it will be penalised for intentional knock-ons.

B4thB4ck
B4thB4ck
18/09/2020 09:55
Looks like an imminent interception to me!

opti
Optimist
18/09/2020 10:05
Maybe it's a no-look catch by Josh?

gaz59
gaz59
18/09/2020 11:35
Often with you on the ever-the-contrarian outlook Opti but that would be some magic sleight of hand and body to catch a ball like that my friend!

Old Bath Tub
Old Bath Tub
18/09/2020 11:57
Don't think it was a particularly good move as i think it was against Bristol and that didn't go well !

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woodpecker
18/09/2020 14:52
For some reason I had planned to watch it on Sunday afternoon.

Even with the wonders of on demand TV I think Im going to be disappointed.

If I get lucky I won't post any spoilers .

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Rawce
18/09/2020 15:30
Chron hinting Cokanasiga might even be back for the Glaws game. (Sm100)

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charlieboa
charlieboa
18/09/2020 15:45
Would be an exciting option to have back in the mix! I would be tempted to throw him in if they are confident in his fitness (sure we will have a good option on the bench to cover him).

Montyuk
Montyuk
19/09/2020 15:02
Quote:
Mr Frivolous
Yeah im wrong again! Club announced pilot scheme for a 1000 supporters to attend

Managed to get tickets. COYB!!

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